I think a better context for it, however, is to talk about the lives of immigrant women, who do face more obstacles than average women in becoming part of society.
They face financial dependence, lack of language skills, distrust of conventional institutions, on top of the culture that they bring with them. People from lower castes in India, who immigrate to Britain, often complain that the caste system is worse in the west, or at least, the rules and codes are more strictly enforced.
Sort of in the broader picture of immigrant rights and the plight of women in those communities, I think the honor killings become fairly relevant, but I hear you, they aren't even close to the biggest problem in a nation.
From stuff I've seen, it is a common feature of most South Asian nations. Indians have huge issues with honor killings. Female infanticide and the murder of wives/daughters-in-law are major problems, and in some places would be at least as bad as any Muslim nation.
ugh, wasn't that disappointing?
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Whatīs that got to do with anything, or did I miss something.
As a matter of interest do the Aborigines or Maoriīs have or had such barbaric practices in their traditions? I donīt thinks so, and their culture isnīt based on the Abrahamic religions. I wonder if this could be a key ingredient to this topic.
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This is what I was getting at with Shiv, earlier. I don't have any data, but I think it is more prevalant in China, india, and Taiwan than it is in the UK. Still, I would like to see numbers on it.
oh no, not at all. It is still better in the West for women, and many immigrants leave to escape these things. I'm sure a lot of the reason why low caste people feel it is so invasive in their lives in the West is because they left India to be away from being a second class citizen, and they are now a second class citizen amongst second class citizens (immigrants).
As far as numbers go, I'd be astounded if it was more prevalent in the West. That being said, I care far more about a single injustice within the borders of my own nation than I do about attempting to impose or change cultural norms in other parts of the world. Its like when Canadians argue about our Afghanistan mission. "Oh, we are building schools for girls there", well shit, we have native reserves without schools all over our country... /sigh
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wtf really ? does that make any sense? oh you got shot , TO BAD ITS YOUR FAULT ?
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you ppl are saying , they chose to get shot , because they didnt tell anyone their father was muslim ? thats the biggest load of crap ive heard in a long time .
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No, I'm saying they didn't tell anyone their dad is insane. Not muslim. The simple fact that you assume that;s what we were saying makes me think you either didn't even read the posts at all, or that you have a learning disorder.
Maybe you could argue that it is a huge peninsula, but it would be a stretch.
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"muslim" was a typo, insane is kinda a word for it , but they saw no danger in it at the time ,so im just having trouble seeing why its their fault -.-
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Sep 1st, 2009 11:22 AM
? does that make any sense? oh you got shot , TO BAD ITS YOUR FAULT ?
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