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Dead Peasants Insurance: a clarification
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Darth Jello
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I think your doing a reasonably good job of personally attacking yourself.


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What I am doing is tearing your ridiculous opinion to shreds. If you are taking that personally, that's your issue. You shouldn't hold such an absurd view.


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What I am doing is tearing your ridiculous opinion to shreds. If you are taking that personally, that's your issue. You shouldn't hold such an absurd view.


As long as you are not personally attacking me, I'm ok.

So, popularity means a lot to you? A majority of people can be wrong, so, to demean my point because it is not popular, is empty.


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So much irony. It's like liverwurst for the ears.


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So, popularity means a lot to you? A majority of people can be wrong, so, to demean my point because it is not popular, is empty.


roll eyes (sarcastic) Because that was clearly his only argument.


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I just love it when someone has the balls to fault someone over something he himself seems to make a living off of doing. Balls of irony.


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roll eyes (sarcastic) Because that was clearly his only argument.


The rest was just his disappointment in what I was saying, and something to do with being tasked with doing something. It really didn't make a lot of sense to me. I was only worried that my honest opinion had upset a mod to the point of anger.


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Re: Dead Peasants Insurance: a clarification

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So anyone who's seen Capitalism: A Love Story....


I practically stop reading right there


It's getting exhausted of reading liberals picture Moore as a Christopher Columbus who discovers things that others knew long ago. This practically boils down to Business Ethics and can only be supported or denounce depending on who benefits or not benefit from it. Like my grand ole pappy used to say "don't sign anything without first reading the godamn contract"


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I don't agree at all. Companies get over taxed all the time. If it wasn't for this kind of "thing". We would not have any jobs, because no one could do business. Where do you think the money goes? I have a house and food on the table. That is where the money goes. If the rich man who I work for decided to close the doors because doing business was not cost effective, then I would not have a house or food on the table.

I did not realize that the economy is ruined when corporations are taxed. I guess that is why nobody in Sweden can put food on their table. We pay the lowest taxes in any western industrialized country and you think they are too high. Ridiculous.


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I did not realize that the economy is ruined when corporations are taxed. I guess that is why nobody in Sweden can put food on their table. We pay the lowest taxes in any western industrialized country and you think they are too high. Ridiculous.


Out of context.

If we didn't have companies, then there would not be any jobs. Are there companies in Sweden.

My point was: "But just because a company takes advantage of the laws that were written so they could take advantage, does not mean they are evil. The law makers did this on purpose. The reason was to support the work place, were most people make the money that runs the economy."


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I mean the practice of taking out life insurance seems perfectly acceptable. I can see Jello's point that it is hardly fair that they can a) write off the expenses for that insurance and b) not pay taxes for the payouts. That is stupid and should be legally changed.


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Re: Re: Dead Peasants Insurance: a clarification

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I practically stop reading right there


It's getting exhausted of reading liberals picture Moore as a Christopher Columbus who discovers things that others knew long ago. This practically boils down to Business Ethics and can only be supported or denounce depending on who benefits or not benefit from it. Like my grand ole pappy used to say "don't sign anything without first reading the godamn contract"


You should have kept reading. The next thing he said was "or (like me), knew about this before".


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I mean the practice of taking out life insurance seems perfectly acceptable. I can see Jello's point that it is hardly fair that they can a) write off the expenses for that insurance and b) not pay taxes for the payouts. That is stupid and should be legally changed.


But it's legal and people do it in order to make money, that must mean it's a moral imperative that people do it.


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But it's legal and people do it in order to make money, that must mean it's a moral imperative that people do it.


What sort of moral extremism are you parodying now? I like it though.


Really though, as you said, it is legal, but I am saying, it should stop being legal. That's all, really.

Oh and apparently it's not only the tax issue, but that there is actively taxpayer money spent. You know I'm all against that stick out tongue


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What sort of moral extremism are you parodying now? I like it though.


I don't know But Shaky seemed to have been heading for that route by arguing that it's not wrong because it's not illegal.

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Oh and apparently it's not only the tax issue, but that there is actively taxpayer money spent. You know I'm all against that stick out tongue


Indeed better oversight (or rather active control) of where tax money goes would be good for everyone.


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Out of context.

If we didn't have companies, then there would not be any jobs. Are there companies in Sweden.

My point was: "But just because a company takes advantage of the laws that were written so they could take advantage, does not mean they are evil. The law makers did this on purpose. The reason was to support the work place, were most people make the money that runs the economy."

No, you said that taxes on businesses in the US were too high (when they are actually super low). I quoted you saying it. You said that if we did not have such massive loopholes to make money off of the deaths of employees, companies could not exist. This is also false.


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No, you said that taxes on businesses in the US were too high (when they are actually super low). I quoted you saying it. You said that if we did not have such massive loopholes to make money off of the deaths of employees, companies could not exist. This is also false.


Whatever, man. You want to take it out of context, go for it. It's not what I believe.


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Companies get over taxed all the time.

THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID! How the **** am I taking it out of context?! What could this POSSIBLY mean other than "companies keep having too much taxes"?


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THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID! How the **** am I taking it out of context?! What could this POSSIBLY mean other than "companies keep having too much taxes"?


It was a counter to the ideas that companies never pay taxes or get over taxed. It was like saying, what you are saying is silly. It was also while I was being attacked, so I don't give a shit.


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