His point still stands: Massive empire undone by a few people.
Unicron was so powerful that only the Autobot Matrix of Leadership can destroy him. Look at Transformers the movie 1986 and ask how the Deathstar can withstand an assault like you see at three points throughout the movie...
What about multiple Galaxy Guns firing at Unicron from lightyears away?
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Star Forge ftw since it could mass produce superweapons if the knowledge of making them is there, which it is.
Do you have proof?
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The transformers movie franchise gave the cybertronians nova generating weapons. Its the plot of the whole revenge of the fallen remember, they only cause stars to go nova when there are no living things in the planets surrounding the particular star.
The fallen wants to make the sun go nova and absorb the energy generated to create energon cube, even though earth is inhabited. They were going to do this while they were on earth, which might suggest that all transformers can survive a nova explosion from a close distance (earth and even mars would be engulfed by the blast if the sun goes nova, check with any astronomer). but this is just my speculation.
It is a fact however that if the transformers are able to create a "cube" from the energy harvested from the nova using their machine, they can use it to make any machine from, bread toasters and cell phones to deathstars, starforge, galaxy gun and suncrushers, into a sentient war freak, gun-tooting transformer as seen in the movies 1 and 2. This means they can convert the entire imperial fleet and all technology present in the SW universe for that matter, into an unstopable transformer juggernaut army.
considering the blast fired from a galaxy gun moves at a speed equivelent to that of a .75 hyperdrive which is faster than a class 1 hyperdrive that would mean that the blast actually moves multiple hundreds of millions of times the speed of light!
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Irrelevant rebuttal. We were debating whether or not Unicron can withstand multiple galaxy guns firing at it. Whether or not the star forge can chart out a matrix is irrelevant to the discussion. Stop redirecting the argument.
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So this is yet another 'Star Wars Vs. Something Hewhoknowsall knows nothing about' thread and you'll just dictate that Star Wars wins because it's Star Wars.
But I'll explain my comment to you yet again, since you're a total failure who can't follow something that's been told to you multiple times. REPEAT: UNICRON CAN ONLY BE KILLED BY THE AUTOBOT MATRIX.
He's devoured around 20% of the universe (planets, moons, stars etc) and taken in their energy, which would equate to millions, billions or trillions of galaxies, depending on your view of how big the universe is. So unless the Star Wars galaxy has an AUTOBOT MATRIX, it'll just be another galaxy he'll eventually devourer and shart out. Then of course, there's all those other millions of Transformers, which would be in the fight too.
Contrary to what it may seem like, I'm not necessarily saying that Star Wars wins in this case since I have a rather limited knowledge of Transformers. However, your argument still has little to do with the topic, since the autobot matrix isn't the only way to defeat Unicron.
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thats a bit of a no-limit fallacious dont you think? also absorbing mass amounts of energy over the course of months and years =\= massive energy output in one sudden blast (or multiple if its two death stars and a galaxy gun).
I've watched all the transformers cartoons and animated movies. I agree with Hewhoknowsall that the autobot matrix is not the only way to destroy "Transformers the Movie - Unicron". Multiple deathstars or galaxy guns would probably do the job. Ten death stars and ten galaxy guns attacking at the same time would probably takeout "Transformers the Movie Unicron". If you don't like ten then lets go with a thousand each. However even if you disintegrate his body Unicron can exist with only his head left intact and he can scheme and find ways to create an new body as evidenced in "Transformers Generation 2".
However if you're talking about the "Marvel comics - Unicron", he can take out the entire starwars galaxy solo. He actually wiped out the previous universe "even "the stuff of space itself" in the universe and leaving only nothingness and void." according to wiki. But this version of unicron is omnipotent level hence not allowed.
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Jul 20th, 2010 12:16 AM
Falcon punch lol
