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Lord Feron
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If they are only humans. IMO thor is a big guy, but Supes is gonna play smart ang go for the pressure points and shit batman taught him. But if supes doesn't do that and tries to brawl it out which he seems to do 95% of the time he will lose to a bigger stronger man with alot more experience. Technique is the only way Clark is going to win.

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If they are only humans. IMO thor is a big guy, but Supes is gonna play smart ang go for the pressure points and shit batman taught him.


Pressure points? Pffffft. Like that means shit.

Thor is a viking. He wins 10/10.


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There is hole in this fight with Thor.

If they're reduce to human form....there is NO friggin way he's going to remember Thousands of years in training...that's just too broad.

I would say is pretty even. Since both Clark and Thor have been train in their respective teams like Justice League and Avengers.


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Except that supermans fighting skills is mainly base on his powerset

thor is a brawled and fights a lot of times on tje ground like Hercules with just his fists. I remember Thor saying before but I can't remember from where "let fists do alone what mine hammer could not" he was facing hulk is all I remember


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Except that supermans fighting skills is mainly base on his powerset

thor is a brawled and fights a lot of times on tje ground like Hercules with just his fists. I remember Thor saying before but I can't remember from where "let fists do alone what mine hammer could not" he was facing hulk is all I remember


Because super strength and durability aren't super powers...

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I'm betting all the times Superman didn't use his multitude of powers and went for a fist-fight he was thinking :
"Hey the ability to take a beating to the face even though I have better powers sure will come in handy should I ever be depowered and forced to fight a similarly depowered God of Thunder"

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Pressure points? Pffffft. Like that means shit.


Really? What if he was fighting Batman?

I really want to know which hypocrite in here usually champions for MA when in topics concerning Spider-man vs Random MA guy, but is voting for Thor now.


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Really? What if he was fighting Batman?

I really want to know which hypocrite in here usually champions for MA when in topics concerning Spider-man vs Random MA guy, but is voting for Thor now.


presure points would mean something to thor if clark would be able to deliver them. Thor would go for a weapon (anything he can get his hands onto) and keep clark at bay. clark will give him a run for his money but he's not going to win. thor is stronger (as a human) better reach, better fighting skills, more detrimination (maybe) more expirence, and is just way more brutal


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thor has MA skills too


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Pressure points? Pffffft. Like that means shit.


Yeah, but Thor in full-powered form has been knocked cold several times by human martial artists using pressure points.

Still, Clark would have to be very good to be able to do that. If he didn't use his smarts and went in in brawling he would most likely lose to Thor.

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Yeah, but Thor in full-powered form has been knocked cold several times by human martial artists using pressure points.



i recall only Mantis who is like Marvel's Karate Kid

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i recall only Mantis who is like Marvel's Karate Kid


yeah... but she did it a couple of times. And she's not really KK level anyway, Moondragon defeated her relatively quickly in HTH (incidentally - MD claimed she could also knock Thor out, but never actually did).

Thor's certainly vulnerable to pressure point attacks but most fighters wouldn't be able to exploit that - Clark included.

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well mantis has been shown to be able to affect cosmic level characters with martial arts before due to her special pama priest training and empathic abilities...

I mean I can't see Daredevil for example being able to affect Thor with nerve thrusts etc

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well mantis has been shown to be able to affect cosmic level characters with martial arts before due to her special pama priest training and empathic abilities...

I mean I can't see Daredevil for example being able to affect Thor with nerve thrusts etc


Mantis' MA attacks (before she went cosmic) weren't really amped as such by her empathy, she was just highly trained and knowledgeable and knew exactly where to strike the body. The blows were clearly described as pressure point nerve attacks. But even in her case landing them did rely somewhat on the element of surprise when she used them on Thor.

I think Daredevil, Batman etc could inflict the same sort of KO if they were able to land the strike, but in a straight fight it's just hard to imagine any of these fighters getting the chance to do it, although in this thread Thor doesn't have any of his superhuman durability, speed, and reflexes anyway.

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you are right

still it's hard to grasp how someone who can teleport in the heart of the sun unafected gets hurt by normal human hits.

his skin durability should be enough to resist it

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you are right

still it's hard to grasp how someone who can teleport in the heart of the sun unafected gets hurt by normal human hits.

his skin durability should be enough to resist it


Yeah, always thought it was a bit silly too.

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