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Hasan: 2nd floor, third door on the left. Don't take the elevator because it smells like an old, steel urinal.
Obama: Thanks for the advice.
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because there is no evidence that the attack was staged to intimidate the American public into making a specific political policy decision.
EDIT: For instance, a suicide bomb attack in a crowded market which targets primarily civilians is a terrorist attack because it is interfering with individual lives and attempting to cause enough disruption and fear that people side with the terrorist, or rather, no longer do what the terrorists are fighting against. A suicide bomb attack against a military institution, bent on damaging the material ability of one army to fight another army is a tactic of asymmetrical warfare.
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Last edited by inimalist on Nov 6th, 2009 at 08:24 PM
You say that as if that is the definition of terrorism. When in fact, there is no exact definition. At least one agreed upon internationally. The only characteristic agreed upon is that terrorism involves violence and the threat of violence.
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Since "terrorizing" is a derivative of "terrorism"...if a man terrorizes his family, would it be because he wants to intimidate them into obeying him? Because if he didn't, he could just kill them, which according to the def. above, wouldn't be terrorism. It would just be a killing spree.
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Last edited by botankus on Nov 6th, 2009 at 08:37 PM
its also the most common way that terrorism is talked about academically.
Though, yes, like "religion", "state", "government", "capitalism" and essentially any other abstract concept about which people discuss, there is no set-in-stone definition for Terrorism.
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
but more on point, are you saying this was an act of terrorism, or are you just trying to say that it is impossible to talk about terrorism in the first place?
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__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
__________________ He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Sometimes violence is neccessary to prove a point, like what the IRA did back in the day against the British government who REFUSED To leave the country.
They tried peace and then had to resort to violence because there was no other solution. The IRA were far from terrorists...
Yeah those 2 unborn children at Omagh. The decisions they made in the home office to oppress Catholics had to be met with blowing them up...No other way for it.
indeed, attacks leveled against British military personnel would not be considered terrorism, but warfare.
however, the necessity of violence is irrelevant. Terrorism is determined by the target of violence and the motivation for such violence.
I won't argue because I'm largely unfamiliar with the workings of the IRA proper. However, Ireland has suffered from a plethora of terrorism, committed by Irish nationalists and by the British military.
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