I agree, Star Trek wasn't cool but I loved the new movie. It's almost as good as the Undiscovered Country film. TNG was by far the best Star Trek show imo though.
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I ran into this thread and I see a lot of votes for the Borg, but from what I know about both series I can't see how the Empire wouldn't eradicate the Borg, and they are known for eradicating known threats, like the Jedis or Wookies.Yea maybe if the Borg were a sneaky race maybe, but the Borg assimilate through brute force, and brute force against brute force the Borg don't stand a chance.
Someone made a joke that if the Empire could kill trillions of Borg they would easily beat the rebels, yet conversely trillions of Borg could never beat Earth or 1 earth ship for that matter, whether the USS Enterprise or Voyager, because in shows... guess what... the good guys win so that's not a good measuring stick. What is is by the end of Voyager they had the technology for one ship to cut through the Borg like they were paper and there was nothing the Borg could do about it, and Voyager had to learn or "acquire" that technology over years... The Empire has technology to destroy PLANETS already much like Species 8472. So similarly on a smaller scale Star Destroyers against Borg Cubes I would assume hundreds if not thousands of Star Destroyers would cut through multiple of them like paper just like 8472 or Voyager did, because again all the Borg use are frontal "my ships are more powerful than yours" attacks and I don't see that they would be.
The Borg never sent "trillions" against the Federation.
Species 8472 proved a threat to the Borg because the Borg had no way of adapting to their evolutionary peak biology and biological based weapons from another dimension. It wasn't just a matter or 'more power output'.
A handful of Species 8472 single-pilot ships can do what it takes the Death Star. ie destroy a planet.
The Borg don't soley rely on "my ships are more powerful than yours", they win through adapting and assimilation their enemy's tech into their own.
If the Borg get on the ship I can see them quickly adapting to the blaster rifles of the Stormtroopers and assimilating quite a few of them. But if Vader or the Emperor is on board and they get word of what's going on the threat will quickly be neutralized.
How would Vader or Palpatine handle being transported? Cos after they slaughter enough Drones via sabre and Force attacks, the Borg will recognize the sizeable threat and take action to neutralize it.
Are you questioning if the Borg have ever transported someone? If so, the answer is yes. They have transporter technology, it's very common/standard in Star Trek.
Although I'm a bigger Wars fan than Trek, I have to go with the Borg. The Borg have shields that adapt the frequency of energy weapons. That is something the Empire is not familiar with. Unlike Wars armor, Borg have ablative armor which soaks damage if the shields are penetrated. A cube also contains a sphere which can be used in combat. Borg can beam through shields. It's sad to say that the Borg would win.
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Mind, it also seems likely that enough raw power can overwhelm it. The Fed managed to batter one down in First Contact, and while their performance against 8472 biobeams improved over time it never got to the 'not killed' stage.
Nothing says adaptation works different between torps and energy weapons.
Torps did jack squat in prior encounters, same as phasers.
Biological elements aren't unadaptable. It's that their ships had an immune system that was stronger than the nanos, so they couldn't adapt that way, but nothing'd prevent them from doing trial and error.
IMO, the Yuuzhan Vong would be the only species who possibly could stand a chance against the Borg. Their bioships are the wild card, but the Vong themselves, it is uncertain whether they could be assimiliated themselves. I just hate to say that I believe the Borg are stronger. At the Battle of Wolf 359, the Borg destroyed a Federation fleet. Unless Thrawn was commanding the armada sent to fight the Borg, the Empire cannot win.
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