Cancelling out someone's spell does not make you stronger than them. One enchanter has messed with and cancelled Odin's spell, but he is not more powerful than Odin, not by a longshot.
That was an alternate version who was not just alternate, but amped by HoM Witch unconsciously... that's not even close to applicable to the main Genis.
I think the stuff about Onslaught is nonsense... OK, he has a pretty good showing in owning Juggernaut... who cares, I can show just about every character in this tourney has their highest feats at a level above that. I think it's quite the double standard myself. Xavier and Magneto are imo bottom of the barrel heralds, even combined they're nothing that goes beyond the boundaries of this tourney.
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Im not talking about HoM, but yes he did that as well and he actually realized about the 616 universe and then started to blink out HoM universe thanks to Flashback. Where did it say he was amped by the Witch?
Everyone please make sure you've read the rules at the beginning of this thread just to be sure you're planned tactics are compatible with them. Thanks.
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Carl - "No, the real point is: I don't give a damn."
Carl - "This line, here? Line of Death. You cross it, and your freedoms no longer exist. Um-kay? Have a good day."
When did the 616 Genis ever blink the universe, or do anything close to that? As far as I know, we have rules on KMC that prevent alternate universe feats from being used under most conditions, and if we didn't, I wouldn't try to pass off a feat that happened to an alternate Genis like it happened to the Genis we drafted.
As for the magic users, does anyone honestly think that there is anything either Zatanna, Shaman/Talisman II, or Loki could do that the other two could not?
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Carl - "No, the real point is: I don't give a damn."
Carl - "This line, here? Line of Death. You cross it, and your freedoms no longer exist. Um-kay? Have a good day."
iirc, that was because the way he was drawing power from the ends of times was going to destabilize himself and the universe, not because of anything he was personally capable of at the moment, but because of future risks.
I mean, you might as well say "Wonder Man is a multiverse buster" because he set of the flaw that was going to end the multiverse in Marvel: The End.
I'm all for letting feats be the judge most of the time, but that really Onslaught really doesn't seem to fit into that category IMO. I mean he may not have actually done anything that Surfer or GL couldn't, but at the same time unlike those characters we have literally NO idea of what it would take to put the guy down for the count.
I'm also worried a little in regards to Nate Grey. I mean the stuff he's done to date isn't big deal to me, but it seems like I've heard something about him running into Sentry sometime soon and Sentry's character is obviously more than a little "iffy" at this point. So if I've heard right about the intended crossover I think he should be treated like Sentry and only allowed past appearances.
Ok, Batdude and I have made a few decisions. First, we are going to allow the Magneto/Xavier version of Onslaught. Nothing we are aware of clearly puts him above the caps and there was technically no rule against using an independent character that was an amalgam of two other characters.
Also, as for all of the controversial characters in the tournament, we will be watching closely for any abuses of the rules or limits.
Expect heavy penalties or disqualification if it is clear to the judges that a team is cheating in some way. So play by the rules.
Finally, the judges will be using the following criteria for scoring the matches:
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....a specific version greatly depends on this.
Dec 23rd, 2009 08:51 PM
