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Replicate humans?


Yeah, teleportation.

1. Scan a human body.

2. Destroy it.

3. Recreate it somewhere else.


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Yeah, teleportation.

1. Scan a human body.

2. Destroy it.

3. Recreate it somewhere else.


I don't think it's quite the same thing.

it's more about taking it apart and putting together, rather than just destroying and then creating anew.


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Before we start to fight I'd like to say I actually agree with you but if thats the case how do you explain Riker and Tomas?


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Before we start to fight I'd like to say I actually agree with you but if thats the case how do you explain Riker and Tomas?


Because the transporter chief copied riker's signal to a second beam, planning to reincorporate the two beams when it got back to the ship.

honestly, that one episode really flies in the face of the way the transporters are supposed to work.


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I don't think it's quite the same thing.

it's more about taking it apart and putting together, rather than just destroying and then creating anew.


Same things aren't they?

My mate believes once the Trekers teleport they lose their souls.

Become golems.


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Same things aren't they?

My mate believes once the Trekers teleport they lose their souls.

Become golems.


Not especially imo. The transporter might take you apart, but it keeps what it takes apart and then puts it back together. It's still "you" so to speak.

The soul thing is a debate even among Trekkies. It doesn't help that they have heisenberg compensators that aren't even explained.


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Not especially imo. The transporter might take you apart, but it keeps what it takes apart and then puts it back together. It's still "you" so to speak.

The soul thing is a debate even among Trekkies. It doesn't help that they have heisenberg compensators that aren't even explained.


That's what I find hard to believe.

An away team is on a daring rescue mission and the ship is about to be blown up. The Enterprise beams them out and they appear on the ship. Energy appears around them then there is nothing. Ten seconds later those particles appear on the ship. Those particles go through the hull of the ship and to where they need to be "recreated".

They make food out of thin air. Resources to make Starships. But they can't or are not allowed to clone 20 Picards.


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That's what I find hard to believe.

An away team is on a daring rescue mission and the ship is about to be blown up. The Enterprise beams them out and they appear on the ship. Energy appears around them then there is nothing. Ten seconds later those particles appear on the ship. Those particles go through the hull of the ship and to where they need to be "recreated".

They make food out of thin air. Resources to make Starships. But they can't or are not allowed to clone 20 Picards.


its an energy beam. their bodies are demolecularised, but are kept within the matter stream, then carried to the ship and reassembled on the transporter pad.

the food is created by matter manipulation and molecule reorganisation, it's not created out of thin air. and they have to mine a lot of the heavy materials to make ships. they don't just replicate them.

there are several things replicators simply can't make, including objects far too complex to replicate, like latinum, people, i think dilithium is in there too.

iirc its something to do with the resolution or something.


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Cool thanks for the separation of methods.


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Hate to discuss politics and economics on a Star Trek forum, but bottom line is that capitalism has no point and no place once you eliminate scarcity from society.


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