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-Pr-
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Originally posted by Naija boy
They could process solar energy as quickly as ruin could drain it (or input red sun radiation iirc). Ruin is not an energy manipulator on SS level (in regards to skill capacity or output) so he doesnt apply at all.

it does when using red sun radiation is the most effective way of removing yellow sun radiation from superman's cells.

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again, he'd have to actually go and do that while trying to hold off superman.

He doesn't have to PIS and CIS off. Phasing through matter FTW:
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Originally posted by darthgoober
So you think he's going to dodge the board coming from any particular direction, blasts from Surfer, and still get in close enough to start landing punches ? If he spends all his time dodging Surfer will just get back on his board.

you mean Superman would have to dodge straight traveling blasts and a board at the same time?!!!

OHMIGOD...he could NEVER do thaaat. I mean, after all, his speed is only slightly below that of the Flash roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Originally posted by TheKahn
He doesn't have to PIS and CIS off. Phasing through matter FTW:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/...ourer113ms9.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/...ourer119xy5.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/...ourer206gh3.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/...ourer316kp0.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/...ourer504qz8.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/...6phasingyv9.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/...99612310ue8.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/...3phasingwn5.jpg

i've seen that. and? superman can go intangible too.

someone like you, or goober, with norrin's powers, yes, would do well against superman and probably win. norrin himself? not imo.

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He doesn't have to PIS and CIS off. Phasing through matter FTW:

CIS is on though.

also, phasing through walls is nice and all but he has never used it offensively has he?

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i've seen that. and? superman can go intangible too.

someone like you, or goober, with norrin's powers, yes, would do well against superman and probably win. norrin himself? not imo.

The point was that Norrin can easily avoid a physical confrontation with Superman through his intangibility giving him ample time to use his numerous other abilities to take Superman down.

Take away Superman's ability to physically touch the SS and he'd be as impotent against the Surfer as you, me, or Uncle Ben.

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it does when using red sun radiation is the most effective way of removing yellow sun radiation from superman's cells.

Yes it the most effective and thats why i didnt dwell on the fact that the process used to remove the energy was through red sun radiation. However Ruins output is nowhere near that of SS(not even close to half) and so he cant be used as a basis for comparison.

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Originally posted by Starscream M
you mean Superman would have to dodge straight traveling blasts and a board at the same time?!!!

OHMIGOD...he could NEVER do thaaat. I mean, after all, his speed is only slightly below that of the Flash

Basically Superman dodges everything and what is the Surfer doing just firing blanks the entire time?

I can insert many characters Superman has faced and he's been hit multiple times.

Examples: Orion, Darkseid, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonderwoman, Kalibak, Henshaw, Zod, Amazo, Thor, Triumph, Superboy Prime, Mantis, Arion, Subjekt 17, etc. Need I go on?

So your point is despite his history he dodges every single attack by the Surfer even if Surfer uses his board while Superman's attention is on the Surfer who is in front of him? I mean come on.

Both characters are going to hit and blast and each other. You can't have it all your own way and ignore his history trying to give him some sort of cbr edge.

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Originally posted by Starscream M
you mean Superman would have to dodge straight traveling blasts and a board at the same time?!!!

OHMIGOD...he could NEVER do thaaat. I mean, after all, his speed is only slightly below that of the Flash

What makes you so sure they'll be "strait traveling" blasts in a non PIS enviornment...

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/...98001316gj5.jpg

And are you going to back up ANYTHING you've been saying or are you just putting in an appearance as a naysayer who gets proven wrong at every turn?

Tell you what you and me, Battlezone between Supes and Surfer. You up for it?

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Tell you what you and me, Battlezone between Supes and Surfer. You up for it?

in character and no PIS...sure

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in character and no PIS...sure

Don't forget bloodlusted. Anyway, when?

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LMAO. really that would be downright unfair.

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LMAO. really that would be downright unfair.

Why?

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Don't forget bloodlusted. Anyway, when?

anytime is fine...I'm not familiar with the format and rules of a bz though

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Why?

Because of the people involved not necessarily the characters........no disrespect to starscream.......

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Originally posted by Naija boy
Because of the people involved not necessarily the characters........no disrespect to starscream.......

how is it no disrespect to me, when it obviously is laughing out loud

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how is it no disrespect to me, when it obviously is

Well regardless of ur debating abilities (which i wasnt knocking) wink

, ur knowledge of superman is fairly limited and u would be defending him against one of the most knowledgeable surfer fans there is......not to mention opinion generally favours surfer against supes......

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Originally posted by Naija boy
Well regardless of ur debating abilities (which i wasnt knocking), ur knowledge of superman is fairly limited and u would be defending him against one of the most knowledgeable surfer fans there is......not to mention opinion generally favours surfer against supes.

ok. your assessment is quite correct.

I plan on studying superman and surfer's respect threads quite intensely in preparation for the disembowelment of Darthgoober big grin

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did goober disappear on me right after I accepted?

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Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you so sure they'll be "strait traveling" blasts in a non PIS enviornment...

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/...98001316gj5.jpg

And are you going to back up ANYTHING you've been saying or are you just putting in an appearance as a naysayer who gets proven wrong at every turn?

Tell you what you and me, Battlezone between Supes and Surfer. You up for it?

I've heard of curveballs, but curvebolts? That's just crazy cool