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One of the major plots of the film was to prevent Frost from raising La Magra, the Vampire blood god, and causing a vampire apocalypse. When Frost successfully became La Magra he gained certain powers, making him almost invincible. Each ability he gained was from the twelve pure bloods (Ashe, Cianteto, Dragonetti, Faustinas who held two seats, Ligaroo, Lemure, Kobejitsu, Lobishomen, Von Esper, Upier, and Pallintine) sacrificed in the ritual. Some of those powers/abilities include:
* Far superior strength and speed from that of a regular vampire.
* Red, bulging eyes.
* Instant regeneration of lost limbs.
* Impervious to silver due to Blade's blood
* The ability to walk during the day due to Blade's blood.
* The ability to turn any humans in his path into vampires instantly. (This is open to debate since Dr. Karen Jenson was in the same area where La Magra and Blade's battle took place and was not instantly turned, though it's a probability that La Magra needs to concentrate his powers in order to achieve the turning.)
* The ability to control minds, matter and the elements. (Gained from the Faustinas tribe)
* The ability to shed his skin, turning into a ball of fire to stalk his prey methodically. (Gained from the Ligaroo tribe.)
The majority of these powers were never seen or mentioned in the film since Frost's reign as La Magra was short-lived, but it is believed that since all of the pure bloods' spirits lived within Frost's body, he would have gained their abilities as well.
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OK. Do Gods have souls? It's common knowledge that most movie Vampires have no souls, that they died during the turn, but I guess that's out the window here.
BTW: What you are saying is like saying Luke Skywalker has zero midichlorians because the word midichlorians is never mentioned in the OT.
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Correct, because the Vampires turned vampires due t oa virus.
You know, tons of OT fanboys actually reject the cholorians completely as stupid and rubbish. That wouldn't be a far off stretch.
But, no, it's not a bad comment by Imp, at all. The Vamps have souls in the Blade films since their vampirism comes from a virus, not eternal damnation.
Well, he's right and wrong. It's never said that they do not have souls, but it's also never said that they DO have souls.
So I guess the 30 days of night vampires have souls, the Anne Rice vampires have souls, the Underworld vampires have souls. Silly me.
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Yes, any vampire that had turned into a vampire through a virus is not a damned one..etc. Only those vampire stories that DO have them being damned soulless ones, are damned soulless ones.
Double edit - And Gods have souls in Marvel, too. I remember reading something about Thor's soul getting captured by Mephisto....from waaaaay long ago.
And heeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go, more Marvel bullshit, as if it has any place here......
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You know, if we are gonna go strictly by screen feats, I dont recall BH ever doing the "turn to ash" attack on anyone other than humans.
Frost wasnt human.
Bonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng.
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No no no, the attack worked only on humans, Frost aint human, therefore it won't work on him. Screen feats and shit. BH literally showed nothing onscreen that would even faze Deacon.
Deacon was pwned by Blade and the chemical weapon she created. BH has no brilliant doctor to help him here.
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Nope, he did that to humans only, Deacon aint human.
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BH is more powerful than Deacon in every single way possible. Get this: strength, intelligence, speed, durability. That's all four major categories. On top of that, he literally has Magical Spells.
Look, you heard "god" in Blade, and thought it would be a good match-up. I understand that...I might have done the same thing myslef. But you need to understand that it is literally "god" in title only, and is not even close to being a god, by marvel standards (yes, movie too).
Speed and durability go to Frost, he moved and regened faster than BH. WAY faster.
No, I watched Frost in the final fight and thought it would be a good matchup.
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Not to me it isn't. Frost was turned? He has a soul? He's done for.
That is PRECISELY what I am saying. In Ep. 4 ANH, Obi Wan tells Luke that The Force is a field that surrounds us and penetrates us. He makes no mention of microscopic organisms that grant you powers.
It wasn't until Ep. 1 TPM did Qui Gon bring up midichlorians having to do with The Force.
On screen feats only.
So the son of Satan can freeze humans, devour souls, ride the winds, meld into shadow, etc., but can't freeze vampires? I call bullshit on that one.
And, I might add, Deacon is alive.
Dr. Karen Jenson was talking shit to Frost when she had been abducted.
"Where'd you get those scars, Deacon?"
Then she mentioned that she had cured herself with her antidote, and that she could do the same to him.
Hypothetically, if Deacon took the vamp antidote and became human again, he would, very much, be alive and human WITH A SOUL.
Blaze killed Blackheart/Legion only because he had access to Hellfire-based weaponry and his Penance stare.
Blade killed Frost with a damn anti-coagulant
Frost has no projectile weaponry like BH does. Frost can't meld into shadow like BH can. Frost may be the "uber vamp" while having La Magra's power, but he is still a non-angelic/demonic entity like BH is. The only thing Frost has going for him is his regen powers and his speed. And we all saw how far those powers got him, oh...........5 measley minutes after he got them.
The definition of vampire sways radically from movie to movie.
The vampires in the Anne Rice movies did, in fact, "die" to become an undead creature.
The vampires in The Lost Boys did not die, rather it stems from an unseen force/curse, which is why Michael turned back into a human after Max, the "head vampire" was killed.
The same above scenario with the movie "Fright Night" when Jerry died.
The same scenario, again, in Bram Stoker's Dracula. The Count dies, and Mina turns human again.
Honestly, I think that the Blade movies are the only ones that identify vampires can be born "pure" or humans turned via some kind of genetic virus that endows vamp powers, yet their own blood cannot sustain hemoglobin.
I could be wrong, though. I don't watch a lot of vamp flicks. There are so many shitty ones and so few good ones.
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Speculate all you like, fact is he never froze a vampire onscreen, much less the ****in Blood God. Soul or not, it was never shown working on a vampire.
"Deacon?"
"Not anymore."
Yeah, BH has all those cool powers, a shitload more than Deacon, but again I ask, HOW does he take Deacon out?
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