So teleporting, transmuting matter, and being immortal are all ....NOT magical spells?
You mean just simply posting was what clearly seen onscreen, right?
Yes it was. You just choose to ignore it because you want the vampire to win.
You cannot deny what was literally seen on screen. But you've certainly been trying.
Oh, so what are those things he does, if not magic? Also, transmuting matter doesn't have to be magic.
It's either technology or magic. It cannot be the former as he was born with those powers from his father, Satan. So...it's ...you know...magic.
What are you talking about? What did Blinky "said?"
What are you talking about? It was clearly seen onscreen. No speculation or hearsay required.
I did but you chose to ignore it.
You keep saying that, yet you keep posting.
You seem to have really missed everything I was posted. I mean...everything. Nothing I posted got through to you and you still ignore where I corrected your erroneous interpretation on BH's abilities.
Powers, dude. I view powers and magic as different things.
Nah, by posting what was screen, then second guessing and twisting it in a way to suit your argument.
Nah, I could care less either way, they're both lame characters. I already admitted that Frost probably cannot "win", but I am waiting to see how he is harmed.
Was BH shown freezing a vamp with La Magra powers? Nope. All he was shown freezing fully were mortals. Vampires are not mortals,, they are not human, they change when they go vamp. For all we know, their entire genetic structure is altered.
We are talking about a demon here. Different demons have different powers, we see that in his cronies. It's like one human being able to jump higher, or a human being smarter than his colleagues.
Magic to us, to mere mortals, but not to someone like him. To someone like him, it's as natural as breathing.
Read his post, man.
I already covered this.
Nuh uh I didnt.
Cuz you ruv me
No, I am totally getting what you are saying. What you are failing to realize is that according to the MVF golden rule, BH's freeze attack will have absolutely zero effect on Deacon. Why? Again, for the umpteenth time, Deacon is neevr shown freezing an uber vamp like Deacon, much less a regular period. All BH is shown freezing is humans, therefore his freeze attack is limited to humans.
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He was still cut, and all he was shown healing from was cuts. He regrew his hand, and his blood spout reattached his upper body to his lower body once they were seperated. He was never shown to be able to heal from BH's freeze attack. So you can say the freeze attack won't work, and I can say go a different route, but use the same logic and say that as soon as BH touches him, La Magra/Frost dies.
You basically admit that it's magic later in your post, so I'll let this slide.
I know that's what you're doing. But what am I doing?
Teehee
Showed you already.
BH doesn't need to be shown doing that to a Vamp. And, yes, a vamp has slightly different genetics. But, that doesn't change the fact that BH could just as easily use his magical spells to transmute the Vamp, which happens to be made of the same matter as a human...just different genetics.
Wait, isn't that like the 12th time I've explained that to you?
K. So, you call them powers...and everyone else, including Marvel, will call it magic.
No, it's actually magic. He was born with it. His father is the God of their Realm, and his Son is even more powerful than his father.
They are mystical beings that can only be harmed with...get this...powerful magic.
Where?
I did too...cept I covered it better. HA!
Uh huuuuuuh!
How dare you. This is an 82 Honda.
And for the 13th time, BH doesn't need to be shown doing that to a Vamp. And, yes, a vamp has slightly different genetics. But, that doesn't change the fact that BH could just as easily use his magical spells to transmute the Vamp, which happens to be made of the same matter as a human...just different genetics.
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No, no one has been pwned. All that you say, it makes sense, but unfortunately we have to adhere to the rule.
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Yeah, see? McClane cannot drive a Toyota Tundra cuz...........He's never SHOWN driving one!!!
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I already explained this to you. Have you already forgotten?
If by 'freeze attack' you are referring to Blackheart's poisonous/necroplasmic touch, it was shown earlier in the film that it did work on Ghost Rider. The only reason Blackheart didn't kill him then is because he wanted Ghost Rider to bring him the contract.
He doesn't use it here because he didn't think he needed to. He believed that with the power he'd gained he was invincible so there was no need to kill Johnny right away. Notice when he seizes him by the neck and lifts him up Johnny is in his mortal form with no powers (he can't become Ghost Rider in sunlight. In sunlight he's as human as anyone else). Blackheart could have killed him then easy, but he chose to taunt him instead.
No it was not "only shown working on 100% humans." Again it worked fine on Ghost Rider.
It's true they are nothing alike. EDTA is a chemical that reacts to vampire blood. Blackheart's necroplasm is a supernatural poison has been shown to effect mystical beings. No reason to think it won't effect Frost.
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Well, I can kind of see that. If the Tundra is going to be his weapon, then, yes, it shouldn't count, as he didn't use those weapons. We have to stick to on screen shizer.
In other words, you can't give someone a weapon they don't have.
Just give the BFG from Doom, to any person you want to win. See how it could be lame?
Of course, there should be leeway within reason. That's kind of where the debate portion comes in.
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