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Damborgson
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Ok, sounds fair to me. Take it easy.


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Sentry seemed to have edge on Tor


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Originally posted by Damborgson
Up until he started to burn. The Void had already resurected him once that issue.

The Void also explained it to him that their ability to resurrect was beyond either's control.

Him not resurrecting after his final death at the hands of Thor was probably just the plot needing to end with the character getting killed off at some point or the other.


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Sentry is basically the only hero from Marvel who has consistently been stated and shown to be more powerful than Thor - and that is due to his retroactive shoehorning as Marvel's Superman, but it is as it is.

Thor only killed him because Bob wanted to die - nobody in his right mind would say otherwise.


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Pretty sure Bendis even confirmed that in an interview. But don't ask me to post the link, I don't care enough to search for it. In fact I don't care to the point that im gonna stop typing right about


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Bendis confirmed that the Sentry wouldn't have died if he didn't want to.

Still say Thor beats him senseless smile

Bendis has Sentry fighting at his full potential and Thor being virtually retarded.

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Originally posted by curryman
Bendis has Sentry fighting at his full potential and Thor being virtually retarded.
Well, that's simply not true.


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Well, that's simply not true.

Enlighten me.

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Enlighten me.
Thor hitting things with his hammer and using lightning is his usual fighting style. It's not so much fighting retarded, as it is in character. Is what Thor does in character retarded? I'll let you answer that.

Bendis Sentry isn't fighting at full potential - certainly not when facing Thor. If Thor had faced, say, Molecule Man facing Sentry/Void, he'd have been atomized instantly. Loki was unlucky enough to see that facet of him.


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Thor hitting things with his hammer and using lightning is his usual fighting style. It's not so much fighting retarded, as it is in character. Is what Thor does in character retarded? I'll let you answer that.

Bendis Sentry isn't fighting at full potential - certainly not when facing Thor. If Thor had faced, say, Molecule Man facing Sentry/Void, he'd have been atomized instantly.


Okay, I agree with your assessment.

No, I disagree. Thor would resist it.

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Thor resisting something that Molecule Man, whose power is controlling what he was attacked with, couldn't, is a legitimately retarded standpoint.


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Thor resisting something that Molecule Man, whose power is controlling what he was attacked with, couldn't, is a legitimately retarded standpoint.

It was a shitty Molecule Man.

Thor has resisted stuff like that.

Bendis' mind can't cope with things beyond Meta. When people try to Bendis-backed ABC, that happens to be wildly inconsistent with character history, stuff at me, I just shrug and let it roll off.

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It was a shitty Molecule Man.

Thor has resisted stuff like that.

Bendis' mind can't cope with things beyond Meta. When people try to Bendis-backed ABC, that happens to be wildly inconsistent with character history, stuff at me, I just shrug and let it roll off.
He's certainly not shittier than this version of him, who at that point couldn't even control organics:

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The criteria on which you say he was 'shitty' is because he got beat by Sentry..to counter-argue Sentry beating him. Circular logic? Awesome.
I get it. Bendis. Whatever. But you're the one who brought up Bendis and his 'full potential Sentry'. That Sentry would wipe the floor with Thor's molecules and, again, nobody in his right mind could say otherwise.


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He was shitty because he was shitty.

I didn't specifically refer to Sentry/Void vs Thor. Bendis-Thor is always retarded.

Thor will resist it.

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The Void also explained it to him that their ability to resurrect was beyond either's control.

Him not resurrecting after his final death at the hands of Thor was probably just the plot needing to end with the character getting killed off at some point or the other.


He also said that Sentry didn't want it enough. Which would fit well with the end in Siege, since Sentry did legitimately want it.

There was no way to kill them if Bob didn't want to stay dead after all.


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He's certainly not shittier than this version of him, who at that point couldn't even control organics:


I don't agree, any MM is only as weak as the stupidity of their mindset, being idiotic is even more of a drawback than the non-organic limitation.

But Thor being owned made me laugh, so I'll allow it stick out tongue


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Pretty sure Bendis even confirmed that in an interview. But don't ask me to post the link, I don't care enough to search for it. In fact I don't care to the point that im gonna stop typing right about
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"Bob realized that things had gone as far as they could possibly go. There was no other end for him and without his cooperation he doesn't go away."

And Bendis does indeed confirm, Bob wanted to stay dead.


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Bendis confirmed that the Sentry wouldn't have died if he didn't want to.

Still say Thor beats him senseless smile

Bendis has Sentry fighting at his full potential and Thor being virtually retarded.


Good then Bendis confirms what I perceived the Sentry as being the whole time.

Unkillable until he wished it so.

Meaning once destroyed, kept himself dead instead of simply willing himself back into being.

WE KNEW THIS AGES AGO. WHY ARE WE ARGUING THIS NOW?


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Good then Bendis confirms what I perceived the Sentry as being the whole time.

Unkillable until he wished it so.

Meaning once destroyed, kept himself dead instead of simply willing himself back into being.


I don't think he's actively preventing himself from coming back, because then he wouldn't even be close to being dead. He used to pull body back together because he doesn't want to die. Like any energy-being.

When Thor killed him, Sentry finally wanted to die and kept from pulling himself back together, allowing his consciousness to disperse.

That's my take on it at least.

No one is debating that, I just don't think that full potential Sentry would be able to simply will full potential Thor apart.

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I don't think he's actively preventing himself from coming back, because then he wouldn't even be close to being dead. He used to pull body back together because he doesn't want to die. Like any energy-being.

When Thor killed him, Sentry finally wanted to die and kept from pulling himself back together, allowing his consciousness to disperse.

That's my take on it at least.

No one is debating that, I just don't think that full potential Sentry would be able to simply will full potential Thor apart.


My take on it is that the Void was always there to force his confused consciousness back into being even if he wanted to die.

When Thor blasted him at the end of SIEGE, Void was weakened due to the stones. So Sentry was allowed time to dissipate.
Even though Void erupted out of him it was too late.
Loki's sacrifice was enough to put him down for good.
Sentry was the source. And his end was given to him.


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