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Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor
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CA>THOTI>IG>UN

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Aside from that not being the only other IG shown besides the 616 version, I don't see how all it could destroy was a galaxy, even if that's all that was being threatened to destroy.

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Not really.
No relevance at all. 616 Galactus' death can cause the destruction of the entire Marvel Multiverse. That doesn't imbue 616 Galactus with a level of multiversal power. 616 may be the foundational pillar. But while taking out the single foundational pillar of a house with a sledgehammer might bring a whole house down, it doesn't mean that the sledgehammer has the destructive force of a wrecking ball.
Multi-Eternity is multiversal in power. No. Especially when the CCU's created that alternate dimension and the effects of the merger are completely contained within that single 616 universe. To my recollection, the term, "multiverse," and derivations thereof, was not used to describe the IG's power.However, I also think it's fair to point out that the scope of power demonstrated by variety of the things that the IG has done < the scope of power demonstrated by the few things that the UN has done.

Im going to give you a simple answer..
When the IG EFFORTESLY defeats Eternity(living embodiment of you know what), Death, and a well-fed Galactus along with a bunch of abstracts doesn't that tell you that its ATLEAST greater than one universe?

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Aside from that not being the only other IG shown besides the 616 version, I don't see how all it could destroy was a galaxy, even if that's all that was being threatened to destroy.

It was stated that that was the best it could do.

Nov 17th, 2009 10:56 PM

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No, because the ig always will know the enemies first move because of the input gathered from the gems.

You are raising a stink about the un affecting the mulitverse while the ig can pose a threat to the Lt who is the multiversal judge of all reality. That doesn't mean he can phase the Lt in any said reality but he can pose a threat in the ig's very own reality which is what I have been arguing the entire time.

Ig always shows up the un based on this badboy. Knows it opponents move always beforehand. Highest feats and capabilities, right?

Eternity=Infinity anyways so it's ludicrous to assume the ig wouldn't defeat Infinity in combat.

Ig>abstracts as proven in battle.

You're still straw-manning and obfuscating the real issue. You're avoiding the simple logic and trying to compare how users wield artifacts rather than the artifacts itself. It's now painfully evident since you can't brinng yourself to address the issue directly: Does Magus stomping Quasar imbue the IG with multiversal relevance when it has no multiversal feats?

Living Tribunal can turn the Infinity Gauntlet "on" or "off." It's no threat to the Living Tribunal. Don't conflate Living Tribunal's statement that his confrontation with Adam Warlock would destroy the 616 Universe would mean that the Living Tribunal himself would be threatened. Absurd attenuation.

Utterly irrelevant when we're talking about which artifiact has the greater scope of power.

Never assumed so. I simply stated that the Infinity has never been defeated by the IG. Which is true and countered your erroneous position that it had. Don't put words into my mouth because you don't like admitting when you've stated a falsity.

Irrelevant.

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Galaxt was said like it was the most the IG could destroy.

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It was stated that that was the best it could do.

Which is it, was it said like it was the best it could do, or was it actually stated as being the best it could do?

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Which is it, was it said like it was the best it could do, or was it actually stated as being the best it could do?

It was stated and said in the manner like it would be the most damage it could do.

Nov 17th, 2009 10:59 PM

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Just post the scan.

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Im going to give you a simple answer..
When the IG EFFORTESLY defeats Eternity(living embodiment of you know what), Death, and a well-fed Galactus along with a bunch of abstracts doesn't that tell you that its ATLEAST greater than one universe?

It tells me it has power over that universe. Taking the proposition that having power over one universe and extending it to power over several universes and thus, over the entire multiverse is a complete attenuation that relies on pure wordplay and semantics.

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Just post the scan.

http://img103.imageshack.us/i/im3jj5.jpg/
here you go

Nov 17th, 2009 11:02 PM

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It tells me it has power over that universe. Taking the proposition that having power over one universe and extending it to power over several universes and thus, over the entire multiverse is a complete attenuation that relies on pure wordplay and semantics.

Eternity=power of atleast on universe
well fed Galactus=power of atleast one universe
Death=power of atleast one universe
other abstracts=power of atleast one universe

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http://img103.imageshack.us/i/im3jj5.jpg/
here you go

Uh, that's saying he could destroy a solar system effortlessly.

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Eternity=power of atleast on universe
well fed Galactus=power of atleast one universe
Death=power of atleast one universe
other abstracts=power of atleast one universe

616 Universe = everything in 616 Universe which includes each of those abstracts you listed. You're using semantics and wordplay to suggest that the sum of the parts is greater than the whole.

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Uh, that's saying he could destroy a solar system effortlessly.

Ummm I didn't look at the scan, the thread starter had stated that it was capable of destroying a galaxy and I automatically assumed that the scan would prove that. But still if Impy was able to easily destroy a solar system which is ALOT smaller than a galaxy then it would be safe to say that he could not easily destory a galaxy.

Nov 17th, 2009 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
616 Universe = everything in 616 Universe which includes each of those abstracts you listed. You're using semantics and wordplay to suggest that the sum of the parts is greater than the whole.

Isn't Eternity THE universe?

Nov 17th, 2009 11:14 PM

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Ummm I didn't look at the scan, the thread starter had stated that it was capable of destroying a galaxy and I automatically assumed that the scan would prove that. But still if Impy was able to easily destroy a solar system which is ALOT smaller than a galaxy then it would be safe to say that he could not easily destory a galaxy.

No, it wouldn't be safe to assume that.

That assumption doesn't make any sense at all.

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That assumption doesn't make any sense at all.

Why not?
If it was more powerful then to hype up the story Surfer would state that it would be able to destroy a galaxy with a thought. There are stars much bigger than our solar systems yet those stars are like ants to entire suns compared to the milky way.

Nov 17th, 2009 11:19 PM

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It tells me it has power over that universe. Taking the proposition that having power over one universe and extending it to power over several universes and thus, over the entire multiverse is a complete attenuation that relies on pure wordplay and semantics.

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Why not?
If it was more powerful then to hype up the story Surfer would state that it would be able to destroy a galaxy with a thought. There are stars much bigger than our solar systems yet those stars are like ants to entire suns compared to the milky way.