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Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor
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rotiart
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But it still setsthe precedent that even in the 616 universe the ig wasn't all knowing and hence possibly all powerful


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But it still setsthe precedent that even in the 616 universe the ig wasn't all knowing and hence possibly all powerful


The IG's effect was based on the users Intent.
meaning wherever he focused his will, the effect happened.
Absorbing all the knowledge in the universe is a feat that would destroy any comic character.
IG didn't do that.

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Originally posted by rotiart
But it still setsthe precedent that even in the 616 universe the ig wasn't all knowing and hence possibly all powerful
It was all powerful. Lt is the multiversal judge and his power outranks it it seems. The un's power does not.


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You know I'm talking about ig vs maelstrom right now and it's a fight you won't win so your spinning it back to a topic your more comfortable with.

And as for the sensory perceptions you are assuming that there was a requirement to focus your intent... Can you verify that sensory perception is not an automatic ability


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Originally posted by rotiart
You know I'm talking about ig vs maelstrom right now and it's a fight you won't win so your spinning it back to a topic your more comfortable with.

And as for the sensory perceptions you are assuming that there was a requirement to focus your intent... Can you verify that sensory perception is not an automatic ability




Depending on the users perception.
The more you understand the more you see.
And Thanos pretty much had it all figured out smokin'

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Originally posted by rotiart
You know I'm talking about ig vs maelstrom right now and it's a fight you won't win so your spinning it back to a topic your more comfortable with.

And as for the sensory perceptions you are assuming that there was a requirement to focus your intent... Can you verify that sensory perception is not an automatic ability
Ok. What is it you have a problem with? What reasoning of mine is off?


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That maelstrom was not up there with the ig in power
that you think only lt is above the ig

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Maelstrom only disappeared after he tanked a blast from Thanos. Really alot of beings such as abstracts could have tanked one blast from IG. if he actually went toe-to-toe with Thanos then it would have been safe to say that Maelstrom=Thanos with IG.

Eternity went up agaisnt Thanos for a good amount of time.

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Originally posted by rotiart
That maelstrom was not up there with the ig in power
that you think only lt is above the ig

:-)
He wasn't. To even argue so is baseless and incorrect. There's no way he could have stood toe to toe with Thanos for long.
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Maelstrom only disappeared after he tanked a blast from Thanos. Really alot of beings such as abstracts could have tanked one blast from IG. if he actually went toe-to-toe with Thanos then it would have been safe to say that Maelstrom=Thanos with IG.

Eternity went up agaisnt Thanos for a good amount of time.
Exactly.


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Quasar travelled to another reality where maelstrom had fought thanos and there maelstrom an thanos were both called omnipotent by the watcher

theonly apparent difference in that universe was that maelstrom fought thanos with the ig rather than leaving

that maelstrom blasted quasar into the greater omniverse where he received the starbrand


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"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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try and NAme a single person that tanked a blast unfazed from the ig


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"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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Originally posted by rotiart
Quasar travelled to another reality where maelstrom had fought thanos and there maelstrom an thanos were both called omnipotent by the watcher

theonly apparent difference in that universe was that maelstrom fought thanos with the ig rather than leaving

that maelstrom blasted quasar into the greater omniverse where he received the starbrand
Alternate reality version which cannot be used. This was a maelstrom who usurped Oblivion and became more powerful in all likelihood on panel.


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LOL. I can't comment on something I haven't read. Another dodge.

That's been referenced in Thanos' own series. What's bs about it other than you not liking doom's portrayal in it?
Don't worry, I'm scanning it for you. So you can't use the whole, "I don't care to read it excuse."

Seriously, shut up. I never questioned Marvel: The End's canonicity.
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If you haven't read something how in heck can you say you're absolutely right?
Are you really surprised?


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Alternate reality version which cannot be used. This was a maelstrom who usurped Oblivion and became more powerful in all likelihood on panel.


1. Maelstrom didn't usurp oblivion... To do that he needed to wipe out the universe with a black hole... He did not do that

2. But as to the 616 maelstrom. On panel thano did not affect maelstrom with a blast that he thought should have obliterated him. And Boone has tanked a blast from thanos unfazed except for maelstrom and the living tribunal


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"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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There is no indication at all of how a fight between Maelstrom and Thanos would have gone....for all anyone knows the ig was completely innefectual against him.

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Originally posted by rotiart

the only apparent difference in that universe
was that maelstrom fought thanos with the ig rather than leaving

Thanos didn't have the IG in that scene,
he did attain omnipotence in that alternate reality,
but the source of his power is a mystery.

It's not impossible to say he had an alternate IG,
but there's no proof that I know of that signifies this as fact.


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True. What I interpreted is that on one page they mention that quasar doesn't remember thanos or the events of the infinity gauntlet

and on the next page mentions he wonders hat events lead up to thanos attaining omnipotent power also...

I put those together to say that thanos had the ig

but true. They don't directly say he has the ig... To me it's more indirect

But your right I couldn't find them saying it explicitly that thanos had the ig either


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"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Don't worry, I'm scanning it for you. So you can't use the whole, "I don't care to read it excuse."

Seriously, shut up. I never questioned Marvel: The End's canonicity. Are you really surprised?
You implied it was garbage. Go ahead.

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1. Maelstrom didn't usurp oblivion... To do that he needed to wipe out the universe with a black hole... He did not do that

2. But as to the 616 maelstrom. On panel thano did not affect maelstrom with a blast that he thought should have obliterated him. And Boone has tanked a blast from thanos unfazed except for maelstrom and the living tribunal
He didn't in the 616 reality but common sense tells us he did so in the alternate reality where he faced off against Thanos. Either way it's an alternate reality with too many unknowns so you bringing it up doesn't help your case at all.

2.Yes, because Maelstrom was more powerful than Thanos anticipated. He wasn't anywhere near Eternity level at this point and a blast like this wouldn't have even made eternity flinch.


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1. Common sense doesn't not tell us he did usurp oblivion. If you read quasar you would know the requirement for him to attain oblivions position was to wipe out the entire universe with a black hole first... The universe was not destroyed...you are not following the events leading to maelstrom rise in power and are making assumptions based upon what I'm telling you..

2. That is not answering what I posted at all. You cannot prove that while in the 616 universe eternity would have tanked it. Outside in the room on manifestation he tells us he would have been unfazed... While in the 616 universe thanos defeats eternity off panel. You haven't identifed who could tank a blast from the ig while in it's home dimension other than maelstrom


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Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."

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1. Common sense doesn't not tell us he did usurp oblivion. If you read quasar you would know the requirement for him to attain oblivions position was to wipe out the entire universe with a black hole first... The universe was not destroyed...you are not following the events leading to maelstrom rise in power and are making assumptions based upon what I'm telling you..

2. That is not answering what I posted at all. You cannot prove that while in the 616 universe eternity would have tanked it. Outside in the room on manifestation he tells us he would have been unfazed... While in the 616 universe thanos defeats eternity off panel. You haven't identifed who could tank a blast from the ig while in it's home dimension other than maelstrom
1.They explain had maelstrom won that he would have usurped Oblivion's position. I am saying if the events followed the 616 ones he'd have taken over and supplanted Oblivion's place.

2. I posted a scan which you misinterpreted with eternity basically saying the effects would be nonexistent. Comics support me while you are all over the map.


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