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JakeTheBank
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honestly, i agree. i think he went a bit too far.


The best thing DC can do movie-wise is to expand their vision beyond Superman and Batman and to show them in a shared universe. Granted it would be seen by people as a "rip-off" of what Marvel is doing, but it would work. The simple fact that DC can rival Marvel outside of the actual comic industry with two characters is impressive, and if they spent time to build upon their wide cast of characters (like GL for example), they can only make things better.

That being said, because Nolan wanted to make Gotham City a "real" city and Batman as a "real" hero, that kinda screws up the chance of any shared continuity with other DC characters. I think in an interview he even specifically stated why he wouldn't mention Superman or even acknowledge his existence in his movie universe.


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The best thing DC can do movie-wise is to expand their vision beyond Superman and Batman and to show them in a shared universe. Granted it would be seen by people as a "rip-off" of what Marvel is doing, but it would work. The simple fact that DC can rival Marvel outside of the actual comic industry with two characters is impressive, and if they spent time to build upon their wide cast of characters (like GL for example), they can only make things better.

That being said, because Nolan wanted to make Gotham City a "real" city and Batman as a "real" hero, that kinda screws up the chance of any shared continuity with other DC characters. I think in an interview he even specifically stated why he wouldn't mention Superman or even acknowledge his existence in his movie universe.


yeah, i know what you mean.

at least in the GL movie, Clark is slated to make an appearance, so that's something at least...


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Sounding like Nolan, Jon and Kennet are in the same bed together. They all want a realistic Alien/God who can flying in space, lift mountains, invulnerable to Earths weapons and more. The those guys fight characters like Loki, Surter and Darkseid. All of these are NOT realistic at all. Bad move for either Supes and Thor and it prob make things worst for Supes that already has a dead movie franchise. Thor may can get lucky still with their new ideas.


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why do they keep hiring these idiots to ruin our childhoods? because whenever i hear "realistic," the fist thing that come tom ind is an alien/god who can fly in space, lift mountains, invulnerable to earth weapons and more. jeez..

and frankly, nolan's vision about realism in his movies wouldn't really matter if the studio wants otherwise. donner anyone?


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They should just bring back Donner and let him have his way.

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why do they keep hiring these idiots to ruin our childhoods? because whenever i hear "realistic," the fist thing that come tom ind is an alien/god who can fly in space, lift mountains, invulnerable to earth weapons and more. jeez..

and frankly, nolan's vision about realism in his movies wouldn't really matter if the studio wants otherwise. donner anyone?



thats just it though... i don't think nolan will go the "realistic" way as he has done with batman... i think whoever WB actually hires to direct will take what nolan thinks and try to apply it with his own vision and hopefully a good film ensues


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why do they keep hiring these idiots to ruin our childhoods? because whenever i hear "realistic," the fist thing that come tom ind is an alien/god who can fly in space, lift mountains, invulnerable to earth weapons and more. jeez..

and frankly, nolan's vision about realism in his movies wouldn't really matter if the studio wants otherwise. donner anyone?


You're calling Christopher Nolan an idiot?


And before people run to bring back Richard Donner, consider how mediocre his output has been the past twenty years. He could co-produce, but don't put him in the Director's Chair now.


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And...

The studio doesn't know what they want - they've gone in so many directions over this property. So they're bringing in someone who has shown how to work with their other DC flagpole.


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I just really want Darkseid...

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I WANT DS ALSO....stop using Goddamn Lex, or Zod. The are fine as supporting villains.


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Darkseid would be tricky to pull off but if they got the sort of production values that Avatar had then I can see Darkseid not only looking real, but looking frightening. Also Michael Ironside is the only voice for Darkseid, accept no substitutions.


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Hank, Metallo and others would be better than Lex and Zod.


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Stop with the kryptonite angle, too. Give it a rest. Characters like Braniac & Darkseid give him a great fight without resorting to that plot device.


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Agreed. I want to see a slug fest in the next Superman. And if the villian has kryptonite that likely won't happen.

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Stop with the kryptonite angle, too. Give it a rest. Characters like Braniac & Darkseid give him a great fight without resorting to that plot device.


Yes...I agree stop with the kryptonite plots, they are done to death.

I hope Nolan will make the right choices. He did well for Batman but I dont think the same style can work with Supes.


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I don't think Superman should be "realistic", at least not in the sense that Batman has been made "realistic" in the DK series (which is very, very good).

Superman should be halfway between man and god, like a modern Hercules. I think an interesting concept would be a Superman story that's effectively an adaptation of the Labors of Hercules where some villain (Lex Luthor or possibly even Darkseid) puts him through a gauntlet of some sort that tests his strength, intelligence, and spirit.


Agreed (This is happening a lot recently wink) - But I still like the idea of a realism makeover. Realism can still be epic. 2001 Space Odyssey, and Blade Runner come to mind.


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Also Michael Ironside is the only voice for Darkseid, accept no substitutions.


He even kind of looks like him.


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Agreed (This is happening a lot recently wink) - But I still like the idea of a realism makeover. Realism can still be epic. 2001 Space Odyssey, and Blade Runner come to mind.

Oh I don't think I would mind a "realistic" take on the concept of Superman but you should never call such an interpretation the real Superman. Superman isn't about realism, he's about magic and wonder. If you make such an adaptation don't make it a major Hollywood flick, experiment with it using an Animated Film.


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He even kind of looks like him.

Dan Turpin from FC (when he briefly regained control and started mumbling "In us all") looked almost exactly how Ironside would look if he was in a Darkseid costume. laughing out loud


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