Starscream M
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Superman Team vs Marvel Team
Superman Blue, Eradicator, and Cyborg Superman
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Thor, Silver Surfer, and Sentry
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Feb 9th, 2010 09:17 PM
carver9
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Superman Blue is the icing on the cake but Sentry or Surfer might could take him and thats a HUGE might.
Any other Superman, Team marvel 8 or 9/10
With Blue Superman being there, I'm undecided.
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Feb 9th, 2010 09:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Superman Blue is the icing on the cake but Sentry or Surfer might could take him and thats a HUGE might.
Any other Superman, Team marvel 8 or 9/10
With Blue Superman being there, I'm undecided.
He'd definately have better odds against Surfer(that would be a kick ass fight in fact), but TBH he's probably got less chance against Thor than "normal" Supes would since he's completely composed of energy(I'm pretty sure Thor's hammer could absorb him entirely).
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Feb 9th, 2010 09:52 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
He'd definately have better odds against Surfer(that would be a kick ass fight in fact), but TBH he's probably got less chance against Thor than "normal" Supes would since he's completely composed of energy(I'm pretty sure Thor's hammer could absorb him entirely).
I never thought about that. Its pretty much a 100% chance that THAT could happen but you have to take into fact that this is the same guy that was stated as having speed comparable to an all out flash.
That would be a hard feat for thor to do.
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:00 PM
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Good fight. Can go either way imo.
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:06 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I never thought about that. Its pretty much a 100% chance that THAT could happen but you have to take into fact that this is the same guy that was stated as having speed comparable to an all out flash.
That would be a hard feat for thor to do.
Thor absorbing someone like Blue Supes isn't nearly as difficult as Thor having to tag him because his hammer can drain from a distance. And given the extreme high's and low's of Flash, being comparible in speed isn't always an uber feat. Often yes, always no(pretty much depends on how Wally was being portrayed at the time).
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:07 PM
Starscream M
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Thor absorbing someone like Blue Supes isn't nearly as difficult as Thor having to tag him because his hammer can drain from a distance. And given the extreme high's and low's of Flash, being comparible in speed isn't always an uber feat. Often yes, always no(pretty much depends on how Wally was being portrayed at the time).
you're vastly overstating the power of thor's hammer
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
you're vastly overstating the power of thor's hammer
Have you seen the unreal amounts of energy Thor has absorbed into that hammer?
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:10 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Have you seen the unreal amounts of energy Thor has absorbed into that hammer?
yes, but superman blue is sentient eneryg. that's very different.
Also, then according to you, Thor could easily just suck the power cosmic outta surfer?
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:11 PM
darthgoober
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
yes, but superman blue is sentient eneryg. that's very different.
Also, then according to you, Thor could easily just suck the power cosmic outta surfer?
Blue Supes is sentient energy that is(by his own admission) as vulnerable to magic as anyone. Thor's hammer is magic and absorbs energy... I don't see Supes resisting it.
Different scenereo. In one instance we're talking about him absorbing someone who's completely composed of energy and in the other you're talking about him sucking it out of someone. In the latter sceneo the victim will have a chance to fight off the effect if he/she has absorption abilities of his own, while in the formerany energy they absorbed would just be drawn into the hammer too since they'd be "inside" of it. If Surfer ever made the mistake of transforming himself into pure energy against Thor though, yeah I could definately see Thor absorbing him into his hammer without too much difficulty.
And unless I'm mistaken Thor's absorbed an energy being into his hammer before. I can't say for sure(OneDumbGo would know) but it seems like I remember hearing about it before.
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:21 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Blue Supes is sentient energy that is(by his own admission) as vulnerable to magic as anyone. Thor's hammer is magic and absorbs energy... I don't see Supes resisting it.
Different scenereo. In one instance we're talking about him absorbing someone who's completely composed of energy and in the other you're talking about him sucking it out of someone. In the latter sceneo the victim will have a chance to fight off the effect if he/she has absorption abilities of his own, while in the formerany energy they absorbed would just be drawn into the hammer too since they'd be "inside" of it. If Surfer ever made the mistake of transforming himself into pure energy against Thor though, yeah I could definately see Thor absorbing him into his hammer without too much difficulty.
And unless I'm mistaken Thor's absorbed an energy being into his hammer before. I can't say for sure(OneDumbGo would know) but it seems like I remember hearing about it before.
Well, I agree with this.
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:50 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Thor absorbing someone like Blue Supes isn't nearly as difficult as Thor having to tag him because his hammer can drain from a distance. And given the extreme high's and low's of Flash, being comparible in speed isn't always an uber feat. Often yes, always no(pretty much depends on how Wally was being portrayed at the time).
So are you saying that the flash wasnt going all out when he was racing blue Superman?
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:51 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
So are you saying that the flash wasnt going all out when he was racing blue Superman?
Tough to say. He seemed to be going all out against Black Flash though, and BF was later reveiled to be unable to hit lightspeed. That's why I said it pretty much depends on how Flash is being portrayed at the time, his speed seems nearly as inconsistant and plot dependant as Hulk's strength.
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Feb 9th, 2010 10:55 PM
Starscream M
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by darthgoober
Tough to say. He seemed to be going all out against Black Flash though, and BF was later reveiled to be unable to hit lightspeed. That's why I said it pretty much depends on how Flash is being portrayed at the time, his speed seems nearly as inconsistant and plot dependant as Hulk's strength.
nothing is consistent in comics. neither thor's power, surfer's durability, superman's strength, etc.
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Feb 9th, 2010 11:51 PM
darthgoober
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
nothing is consistent in comics. neither thor's power, surfer's durability, superman's strength, etc.
I never said that consistancy was a staple of the genre as a whole, just that Flash's speed was among the worst(which I'm sure most will agree with).
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