That interpretation is 100% correct, to be honest.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
I'm sorry, so you became Riddick in that scene? No, so stop. It's like the Bible.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
"Riddick not in danger of immediate death..."
Dude, there was thousands of those creatures...EVERYONE WAS IN DANGER OF IMMEDIATE DEATH!!! Killing one creature by hand that had Jack pinned down didn't mean Riddick had a chance in hell if two other creatures ganged up on him. He's smart enough to know that & yet he still risked his own life when he clearly didn't have to.
Hostages?
A character like Riddick doesn't strike me as someone who would hide behind hostages. He'd consider them anything but a burden & hassle to his own survival. There's a bounty on his head, do you seriously think hardened bounty hunters would give a damn if civilians were killed? The civilians were of no social importance, they would've simply been deemed casualties of war.
Twohy & Diesel's commentary went into a lot of detail describing earlier scenes in the movie... a lot of scenes the audience would've shrugged off as unimportant. And yet that pinnacle scene of whether Riddick stabs Fry or not, they only discuss how wounded he was & how budget didn't permit them to show Riddick actually battling the 2 creatures that had cornered him.
Yes, Diesel isn't a very good actor. As I said, he had a camera focussed on his face & Twohy probably in the background telling him to react to Fry getting ripped out of his arms by a flying creature. Diesel's lack of facial expression/acting ability is what we see...not a double ambiguous meaning to him stabbing Fry.
A guy who murders for spending cash?
Who did he murder?
Killing an old woman for her pension cheque would make him a cold-blooded killer. Killing the boss of a ruthless drug cartel & helping himself to the spoils would make Riddick an anti-hero of sorts.
So who exactly did Riddick kill?
I mean all this shows is that Riddick is quite capable of, "Walking the walk & talking the talk."
We've covered this already. The person he killed to pay for his operation; you don't think he wanted permanent night-vision and a handicap during the day because he wanted to use it to do good.
The retcon nonsense they stated in Chronicles has nothing to do with how the character was originally intended years prior.
More evidence that Riddick is a bit more of a softy than Robtard wants to admit: Anyone who has read the novelization to Pitch Black will know how Johns managed to capture Riddick in the first place (in italics for emphasis):
So Riddick killing an innocent person who was not trying to kill or capture him (Fry, in this case, in fact she was trying to SAVE him) doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Riddick typically kills only mercs or people in the way of his freedom (or crazy religious types on a holy cosmic crusade, lol). Fry belonged to none of those categories.
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Last edited by Patient_Leech on Oct 11th, 2011 at 11:45 PM
Just because Frank Lauria made Riddick into the stereotypical hero in order to help his sales doesn't mean this is how Riddick was written in the film. Apples to oranges.
Well, these novelizations are usually written from the screenplays 'n such, I think. He probably wasn't allowed to change much. Certainly not something so vital as this. I'll type out the scene in question also and you'll see that all signs point to: "No, Riddick did not stab her." It's pretty much identical to how it plays out in the movie...
That's the end of the chapter. And on the first page of the next chapter....
(Not my italics this time. They're actually in the book.)
Feel free to keep insisting the world is flat, brah. But I don't think anyone is going to take you seriously.
Last edited by Patient_Leech on Oct 12th, 2011 at 12:25 AM
You're wasting your time. Rob just told me a few posts up that he's ever even seen Pitch Black before.
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