BienSalsa deserves to have his question re-addressed.
Abhi, let me bullet point and be done with you for today:
-- Wonder Woman v2 #219 is Chapter 4 of Sacrifice. Chapter 3 of Sacrifice is Adventures of Superman #642. You showed Superman/Batman #15 where alternate Superman ambushes alternate Wonder Woman, and then, while she is groggy, has his way with her via her rope. Compare that to what Wonder Woman does with Superman, though. He manages to escape only by creating a diversion where Diana is forced to save Batman rather than continue fighting him. Then Superman flees. I can show you images of the scene tomorrow if you wish.
-- Your scans of Superman fighting the JLA, with all of them holding him? That's Superman:Man of Tomorrow, #13 (MOT13).
Circa 1999.
Besides being before the 2003-2011 period I outlined, or even the 2001-2011 period I suggested in my first post, Superman was amped beyond his normal levels by previous extreme sun exposure.
Because he had spent his time disposing of every nuke he could find on Earth into the Sun.
The Kryptonite Kyle Rayner exposes him to nearly takes him out. The only reason it doesn't? He had all that prior sun.
Superman SAYS as much himself on the following page.
I can show you scans of that admission as well as the early scenes of him disposing of nukes in the sun at the beginning of MOT13 on request. I was actually planning to use that issue as proof that Superman's resistance to kryptonite has more or less direct relation to how much sun he's had ... at least in most of the books I'VE read.
-- The "true" lighting versus artist portrayal argument isn't something I'm making up. Try to answer, IF you accept Salsa's premise that the sun is BEHIND Diana, why is her FRONT lit, when that should be shadowed, as Superman's front is?
About the only real answer you'll be able to come up with is that the position of the sun is NOT what the artist or artists are using to determine where light is coming from in their panels.
You can take another look at front-lit Wondy, supposedly with the sun at her back, by the way, by clicking my attached image from that previously shown panel.
It was not an alternate superman and an alternate diana. These were the same beings as post crisis superman and wonder woman, they were altered by Legion of supervillains's meddling of time. Did you forget who did all that, he just punched and shattered her fabled bracers and knocked her silly. What are you talking about.
It was noted that he was going to sun a lot but it wasn't a massive amp by any measure as shown in his fight with orion which as always was a stalemate. He also just recently took a blast from dominus which sends him from moon to earth crash landing. You haven't read much superman books apparently.
I didn't brought up that point so no comment. I just know it was a shitty story which made no sense and rucka wrote it just to wank his favorite character. You answer my question, why would a superman storyline ends in a wonder woman title when there is no reason to move it there?
She was amped in a previous comic called secret society of super villains as I gathered info otherwise its a total random thing which shouldn't have happened but in the same crossover dr fate who has a yellow costume had trouble breaking hal jordan's constructs and alan scott soloed CSA.
You're digging deep here. Ultraman and superman aren't interchangable. He was very weak as he stated as he at full power shrugged off dr fate's magical attacks.
Phail. That was a meteor sized kryptonite which overloaded his powers. This was a small piece of kryptonite. Nothing comparable.
The first scan that was put up with the JLA holding Superman, just want to let you all know that before this, he was feeding off of Sunlight...he was basically amped.
Gender: Male Location: The Fortress of Solitude in Venus
Wow.
Sorry, I just have to say WOW to this argument.
but lets play by this rules then, the artist portrayal of the light and the sun behind her back.
But lets answer to your question and please after I answer this please answer me WHY THE SUN MOVED OUT OF DIANA'S WAY?
OK, to answer Your question
why is diana's front lit but not clark's?
Because Clark's front is facing away from the sun and there is another source of light between Diana and Clark AKA Glowing Kryptonite
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Now, in all seriousness, even Greg Rucka who seems to be a Wonder Woman fan knows; there is no way to justify Diana Surviving am enraged Superman other than saving her from the sun.
So after a Minute and twenty seconds the writer decided to step in and save Diana move the sun out of the way and have a 30 page book comic instead of a 6 page comic book.
Gender: Male Location: The Fortress of Solitude in Venus
I heard that argument before.
New earth Superman killed New earth Wonder Woman in an alternative timeline.
Many people may claim that in an alternative timeline Wonder Woman maybe did not had any of her power upgrades, but also on an alternative timeline Superman did not had his power upgrades.
Superman can take a hit, but he is still taken aback by something that can cut through his aura like it's not even there, like Diana's enchanted weapons (or the enchanted claws of Vixen or Equus etc.) if Diana was fully blood lusted she could finish him, instead of letting him use his power to heal up just so she could buy time.
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>> The first scan that was put up with the JLA holding Superman, just want to let you all know that before this, he was feeding off of Sunlight...he was basically amped.
> There is no conclusive way to say.
If there's not a conclusive way to say THAT much, there isn't a conclusive way to say much about anything at all in comicdom.
That's one of the basic premises OF post-Crisis Superman, Abhi:
more sun = more power, including greater resistance to kryptonite
Again, Superman HIMSELF says that his greater prior sun exposure was the reason he was able to survive the JLA assault at ALL ...
Because it is no longer on Newsarama, as I predicted back then would one day be the case.
So having the relatively unbiased confirmation of a forum moderator helps to verify that what was there really WAS there for people to read, and that the interview posted in this thread earlier a page or so ago was legitimate.
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