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It's an item that becomes part of the owner, at his canon strongest, Link possessed the entire thing, normally he only has a single piece.


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So EVERYTHING this character Link uses are Items? Including this powerful relic? But what are his own feats?


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He does have a lot of items, but no, he is quite powerful on his own, as well. He has many spells, and a great deal of skill and strength.

Really though, that's not important when he has the triforce.


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1. Compare with WW and TP arrows. They are superior.
2. Lol, no. Zell breaks his hand on Ganondorf's chest.


We're talking about arrows specially meant to combat the triforce of power wielder.

It's not like they are just special arrows you go and buy to do extra damage against enemies, lets say its basically like (if any of you remember it) runescape's wolfbane weapon, works great against werewolves and horrific against everything else.
Unless there is some other proof cause other than a fight with Ganondorf I have never seen those light arrows used elsewhere.

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Actually, the light arrows are super-effective against evil in general.


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Oh... well I guess that works enough

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"The light to destroy evil" and all that.


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The Light Arrows have been seen converting creatures into light in WW, breaking the barrier around Ganon's tower in OoT, and exorcising Malladus in ST. They're pretty strong.


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Considering that the light arrows are the strongest of the magical arrows, and the ice arrows can freeze volcanoes, and fire arrows stop an eternal blizzard/melt a glacier or whatever the hell happened on that second island, the light arrows are pretty epic.


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"The light to destroy evil" and all that.


"The light of JUSTICE will smite evil!" - OoT


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Originally posted by LLLLLink
Fail logic. Link can reflect a good deal of here spells, and is immune to the rest via the item of your choice.


Here are all Ultimecia's spells (except Maelstrom because I can't find it):



Quake 0:14-0:20
Bio 0:20-0:26 (poisons the target)
Tornado 0:31-0:36
Holy 0:42-0:50
Blizzaga and Thundaga 1:10-1:22
Meteor 2:08-2:22
Ultima 2:23-2:34
Flare 2:41-2:47
Double 3:33-3:34 (allows the user to cast two spells at once)
Meltdown 4:25-4:31
Dispel 4:33-4:36 (eliminates all positive status effects: magic barriers, speed magic, etc.)


This is Apocalypse.


Great Attractor


Hell's Judgment puts the party down to 1 HP.

If you think Link is reflecting any of these spells, you're outta of your mind.

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Agreed, they are pretty impressive (more so than Cloud), but they lack true power. The kind of absolute power those chosen by the goddesses wield.


I haven't seen Link doing anything that impressive. At least Ganondorf tanked dragon breath, made an island sink, and clashed with Midna which caused Hyrule Castle to explode.

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1. Compare with WW and TP arrows. They are superior.
2. Lol, no. Zell breaks his hand on Ganondorf's chest.


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2:49-2:52

If she can stop a bullet when possessing Edea, imagine what she can do with a Light Arrow with her own form.

2. Zell busts the ground and makes Earthquakes. Not even the Megaton Hammer does that. Besides, Ganondorf has been pierced by a Sage's sword. He is not rock hard.

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That's based off the timeline theory, and is therefore irrelevant. Also, LttP.


I don't get where you got the idea that this was based off the timeline theory. And who cares if this is LttP? It just proves the Triforce isn't that powerful. The King could've easily wished away evil but that didn't happen.

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Squall wouldn't get past the Door of Time. The Master Sword has denied your argument.


Getting through the Door of Time would be unnecessary as he can just seek out Ganondorf and destroy him, ending the story for OoT.

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1. Exdeath will do nothing but writhe in pain as he is banished to the gap.

2. Ganondorf did. And Zelda didn't seal him, it was all of the sages plus the Master Sword.

3. A) Exdeath was never sent to the gap, B) Exdeath got whacked, and his Void was a failure, C) that "elf boy" is actually from the race closest to the gods and was wielding the Blade of Evil's Bane, which has more feats than a lot of FF characters.


1. You only show ignorance. Go play Final Fantasy 5.

2. The void of the Sacred Realm is not the same as the Void. Nothing escapes the Void. Enuo, a powerful magician who made the magic, was defeated by 12 warriors wielding 12 legendary weapons and was sealed in the Void. He doesn't make an appearance in the storyline at all (though he's a bonus boss in the GBA version).

3. A) Exdeath was actually sent to the Void but remerged as a twisted being capable of breaking the laws of physics and claims that he's capable of destroying all existence and dimensions. That's more power than all of Zelda's villains combined.

B) All due to the old cliche that good reigns over evil which usually backed by PIS and other crap. If it weren't that, Exdeath had pretty much won.

C) Don't kid yourself. Zell alone has more impressive feats than Link.


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If you think Link is reflecting any of these spells, you're outta of your mind.
None of those were particulalry impressive, actually. erm
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If she can stop a bullet when possessing Edea, imagine what she can do with a Light Arrow with her own form.
Nothing at all? For starters, it'd be faster than a bullet, and more powerful than any of the magic the FF8 party used on her.

Link and Ganon both have the full triforce for this battle, without Time Compression, Ultimecia still lost to the FF8 party. She's screwed. erm

Link doesn't /need/ to reflect her magic, Ganon with a single piece is more durable than those spells would be a problem for, and with greater magic defenses.


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Here's all of Exdeath's feats:

1. Exdeath was defeated by the four Warriors of Dawn (who were powered by the crystals). Even then, he was reviving himself so the warriors had no choice but to seal him in another planet.

2. While sealed, he possessed people to destroy the crystals to break his seal.

3. Used broken crystal fragments to defeat Butz and kill the King of Tycoon.

4. Exdeath caused Guido's island to sink.

5. While the party was at the Great Forest of Moore, Exdeath took the 4 crystals there and tortured them with it. Cara interrupted but Exdeath slammed her against walls with TK (after he hit here will a ring of fire).

6. Exdeath can alter his own castle to his liking and make it appear to have dead ends, preventing anyone from reaching him.

7. He sends Gilgamesh into the Cleft of Dimension (pretty much the same way Ganondorf disposes of Phantom Ganon except that Gilgamesh survives).

8. When the protagonists defeated him at his castle, he still survived and disguised himself as a splinter in Cara's hand.

9. When Exdeath gains control of the Void, he makes Castle Tycoon and area around it disappear. The Void is so strong that it sucks up all the land leaving water with a pit in the center.

10. While fighting the sage Guido, they were both fighting at superspeed.

11. After he beat Guido, he beats Butz, Cara, and Faris quite easily. He then sends all three and the sage flying off the island they were in. They landed on the continent nearby.

12. Just to be an *******, he sends the Ancient Library and the surrounding area into the Void (including Guido).

13. Later, he picks several locations in the world and sends them into the Void. He does this all with ease.

14. When he mastered the Void, he defeats the party with it.

15. He was sucked into the Void himself when defeated in his tree form. He reemerges as a twisted creature that can break the laws of physics and has dimension destroying power.

Exdeath makes Ganondorf his *****.


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None of those were particulalry impressive, actually. erm


Yet you are impressed by Ganondorf's weak energy balls and fire bats? FF8 magic makes Ganon's boss fight spells look laughable.

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Nothing at all? For starters, it'd be faster than a bullet, and more powerful than any of the magic the FF8 party used on her.


The fastest light arrow is in Smash Bros Brawl and it's not even bullet speed. The Light Arrow, at most, is as strong as Holy. To say that it's stronger than Ultima or the better Limit Breaks is fanboyism.

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Link and Ganon both have the full triforce for this battle, without Time Compression, Ultimecia still lost to the FF8 party. She's screwed. erm


The Triforce has done nothing on her level and useless in this fight. It gets absorbed Ultimecia.

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Link doesn't /need/ to reflect her magic, Ganon with a single piece is more durable than those spells would be a problem for, and with greater magic defenses.


Ganondorf has never dealt with anything like Hell's Judgment or Meteor. Ultimecia uses Double and makes Ganondorf submit with an onslaught of Holy.


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Ganon turns her into a fish. no expression /thread.


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Meh. Ultimecia wins.
Sadly.


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Actually not really.

She can't time compress them, and the triforce is more powerful than anything else she has.


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She's at her strongesAt. She has already absorbed most of existence.


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Which doesn't really matter that much, the FF8 party beat her at that point. erm

The entire triforce? Easy.


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