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Captain Marvel+Black Adam Runs gaunlet
thor and hercules
silver surfer and gladiator
superman and Wonder Woman
WWH
Doomaday
Darkseid
lord marvel and black adam
Thanos
King Thor
Flash
Dov Captain Marvel and black adam at highest level
Odin
Juggernaut
Surtur
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carver9
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Ok, your list is jacked up, they stop at Surfer and gladiator.
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There's even a chance that Thor and Herc stop them as well
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There's even a chance that Thor and Herc stop them as well
Yep.
I think they stalemate at Supes and WonderWoman.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yep.
I think they stalemate at Supes and WonderWoman.
Unless they amp their punches from the get-go, they probably will stalemate. Worse, Diana can literally one-shot either of them with the lasso provided it entraps one them and she asks "What is the Wizard's name?" or something similar. If the order was changed around slightly, they might do pretty well.
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no lasso for diana,
and yes the can supercharge punches and all
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There's even a chance that Thor and Herc stop them as well hercules cant fly.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hercules cant fly.
Right, which means one of them is going to have to get close to Herc to engage him in H2H or for a speed blitz run, in which Herc can potentially grapple them (he is a wrestler after all) and keep them tied up as he beats the crap out of them. Not to mention Thor's command of the weather and his other powers might force the Marvel to stay relatively grounded in the first place anyway.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Right, which means one of them is going to have to get close to Herc to engage him in H2H or for a speed blitz run, in which Herc can potentially grapple them (he is a wrestler after all) and keep them tied up as he beats the crap out of them. Not to mention Thor's command of the weather and his other powers might force the Marvel to stay relatively grounded in the first place anyway.
captain marvel and black adam are both stronger than hercules and thor. and are much faster, (captain marvel keeping up with flash for 1). also captain marvel has high resistance to magic and he can use lightning to hurt thor like the time he was using lightning to make superman scream.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
captain marvel and black adam are both stronger than hercules and thor. and are much faster, (captain marvel keeping up with flash for 1). also captain marvel has high resistance to magic and he can use lightning to hurt thor like the time he was using lightning to make superman scream.
Where did you get Captain Marvel being stronger than Thor from?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
captain marvel and black adam are both stronger than hercules and thor. and are much faster, (captain marvel keeping up with flash for 1). also captain marvel has high resistance to magic and he can use lightning to hurt thor like the time he was using lightning to make superman scream.
Them being stronger is debatable. Very debatable. Much faster when it comes to sheer movement speed, I agree with. Fast enough to move and attack without either god being able to attack/react? No.
The Marvel's resistance to magic means just as much as Thor and Herc's resistance to magic seeing as they are gods. And I really hope you're not suggesting that Captain Marvel scream "Shazam!" and summon a lightning bolt against Thor...
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Them being stronger is debatable. Very debatable. Much faster when it comes to sheer movement speed, I agree with. Fast enough to move and attack without either god being able to attack/react? No.
The Marvel's resistance to magic means just as much as Thor and Herc's resistance to magic seeing as they are gods. And I really hope you're not suggesting that Captain Marvel scream "Shazam!" and summon a lightning bolt against Thor...
it worked on superman and nearly killed supes, its not just lightning its from zeus himself.
in strength Captain marvel>Superman>>>Thor.
thor has no feats putting him on supermans level, herc also
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
it worked on superman and nearly killed supes, its not just lightning its from zeus himself.
in strength Captain marvel>Superman>>>Thor.
thor has no feats putting him on supermans level, herc also
Actually herc and thor both have alot of feats putting them on supes level.And cap is not stronger than supes they are reletively equals.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thanos-prime
Actually herc and thor both have alot of feats putting them on supes level.
like what?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
like what?
Lifting the earth by himself, lifting the heavens,Dragging manhattan etc etc don't know many for thor would have to look them up.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
it worked on superman and nearly killed supes, its not just lightning its from zeus himself.
in strength Captain marvel>Superman>>>Thor.
thor has no feats putting him on supermans level, herc also
It worked on Superman because of his disadvantage against magic. If used on Thor, provided he doesn't manipulate it to strike Batson or land harmlessly away from him, (which he can do because the SHAZAM lightning has been manipulated by other beings in DC, some of which pale to Thor in comparison) the damage won't be as effective because it's magical lightning.
And "Captain Marvel > Superman >>> Thor" is about as ridiculous as anything I've ever seen. Being generous to them all, they're all about at the same level. If anything, the difference between the three of them is so small and hardly a factor, it's dumb to claim that anyone of them could easily over power the other (barring things like Sundips, being amped by a magical power source, etc).
And yes, Thor has feats on Superman's level.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by thanos-prime
Lifting the earth by himself, lifting the heavens,Dragging manhattan etc etc don't know many for thor would have to look them up.
he lift they sky, also this is herc before zeus depowerd him. your forgetting herc was depowered long ago. if he wasnt he would of been much stronger than thor or superman
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he lift they sky, also this is herc before zeus depowerd him. your forgetting herc was depowered long ago. if he wasnt he would of been much stronger than thor or superman
Current herc is immortal herc.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he lift they sky, also this is herc before zeus depowerd him. your forgetting herc was depowered long ago. if he wasnt he would of been much stronger than thor or superman
You see, if you actually read thor you would know that he is just as strong if not stronger than Cap, Supes, and Black adam.
He lifted a serpant that had the weight of the earth.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
You see, if you actually read thor you would know that he is just as strong if not stronger than Cap, Supes, and Black adam.
He lifted a serpant that had the weight of the earth.
and this makes his stronger than them? supes has smashed a planet with his fist before also he only lifted the serpants head
(he is called the midgard serpant, he is the grand child of set)
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