No she loses for a combination of reasons a few of them being that she isn't fast enough or skill enough to avoid Wolverine's claws, nor does she heal fast enough to make up for any damage she will ineveitbly take.
As to why she is less skilled, I guess I'll cover that below... again
Precisely my point. She's never operated outside the bounds of her attributes. Have you ever, one single time, seen her do something that you don't think Captain America, Batman or Daredevil could do give the same attributes as Gamora? I don't think you have. She's never beaten any one of significant skill. In fact the only note worthy fighter she's faced is Wolverine, and he beat her. She's never done anything outside the parameters of her abilities which is recruitment for super skilled fighters. She's the ****ing Sentry of fighters. He has the power of a million exploding suns? ZOMG! Gamora knows every MA in the Milkyway Galaxy? Zomg! But what has she done with it? Oh thats right... nothing. Don't mater though, chicks form space, so lets give her the benifit of the doubt!!!!!!!!!
The opposite my friend, to suggest that Gamora would win is to suggest that Wolverine would never tag her. Wolverine can shrug off the best Gamora can dish out, she can't. It's just a fact. She doesn't have any healing feats that suggest she can take the kind of damage Wolverine dishes, out and still keep fighting, where as Wolverine has taken far worse than Gamora throws out with a smile on his face and a spring in his step.
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@psycho,
IIRC, hasn't she shown the skill to block/deflect his claws with her knives in one of their previous encounters. I'll have to do a web search or something cause I swear I remember that.
if it were as good as his she wouldnt have passed out or we can argue that logan have possibly simply gut checked her without the claws making it worse...
lets also point out the fact what ppl said she cant win a scan feat war b/c she is lacking in that department hence the win logically goes back to logan since he does have feats to support his ability to win..
also being stronger has never bn an issue to logan when facing an opponent and Gamora style fight is less to do with strength and more to do with finesse and stabbing her opponent...
also no one is saying she will never hit him we are saying he can take more then her when it comes to damage soak... which is true..
also consistently perform better my @$$ she has a few wins against known characters and she lost twice to logan.. nothing to say she can win without a single shred of evidence and character history..
might as well say she wins because she isnt a developed character and has a small list of loss to win ratio that are in the dozen range while saying logan loses because he has lost a dozen times in over a 100 some fights...
They clashed blades (daggers / claws respectively), Gamora got distracted, Wolverine stabbed her. She went down. End of fight. Later Wolverine speculated that she must have a healing factor as fast as him... only (like I've been saying this only time), Wolverine wouldn't go down from a puncture wound to the stomach. Gamora's healing factor may insure that after the fight is over she will be up and running again about 1000 times faster than you or I, but it isn't fast enough to compensate for a significant amount of damage during the course of the fight itself, which is a huge liability.
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OMG, you're not going to seriously argue that he didn't stab her are you? Please don't. That would put you in booger eater turf which is the highest (or lowest depending on your pov) level of fanboy.
imo, the whole "not killing women" thing kinda inhibited the artist teams intent on showing the blades, cause he later says (in the second scan) that her healing factor must be as good as his.
and you can see blades popped on his other hand in the first scan, though the colour palette is messed up and has the claws are the same colour as his gloves.
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@shrank,
Well that touches on one of your challenges. She showed combat speed enough to block/deflect his claws. One could just as easily argue that it's unlikely that Gamora gets gutted like that.
Cap, Batman and Daredevil can give Wolverine a run for his money. And now you're amping them all to the physical level of Gamora and giving them the Godslayer. And somehow that would make them so much less formidable that Wolverine would now outclass them. Impressive deduction. When did Gamora pass out? She went down and clutched her gut. Wolverine got laid out by two shield shots from USAgent. At that point, they're both on the ground. And they both get up before the Sun goes nova when the action cuts back to them. So her healing factor is about as good as giving her the ability to recover just about in the time that Wolverine recovers from getting shield-bashed.
So if Gamora was going toe-to-toe with Wolverine and then Strong Guy clocked Wolverine from behind, that's a win for Gamora over Wolverine? And then, when Gamora is going toe-to-toe again with Wolverine and then Wolverine gets distracted and Gamora stabs him in the heart with Godslayer, laying him out for about as long as she's unconscious after getting shield-bashed by USAgent... Gamora wins?
He's not going to walk up to her and one shot her, she's not some random nobody. Of course she is going to be able to parry and dodge some of his attacks, just not enough to matter. Wolverine is faster and he is more skilled, so more of his attacks or going to get through Gamora's guard than vica versa and his heal factor is faster so any damage she lands will be negated, while his will slowly build up. Not to mention Wolverine can potentially end the fight with one lucky blow, Gamora can't.
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Gamora stated she couldnt take out thing and get past his defense without the help of Sasquatch some skill, speed clearly not equal to logan with how he handles thing.
Neither Cap, Batman or Daredevil can give Wolverine a run for his money...
Anyway there are two or there panels of Gamora sprawled out motionlessly on the ground after Wolverine stabbed her. She went down for the count. The same thing wouldn't have happened to Wolverine had he been the one who was stabbed in the gut. Hell, he wouldn't have even went down if he was stabbed in the heart like your example... hell he once had his heart ripped out and eaten, then was blasted with nuclear blast and he still killed the guy who did it.
Also, Wolverine had gotten blitzed by Wonderman moments earlier in that very issue, its arguable that his durability wasn't 100%.
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nope i actually admire the gamora character and find her nerve blows impressive.. the bad thing is she couldnt do it on her own without help clearly replicating it on a skilled fighter would be just as unlikely as she herself claimed it to be on thing.....