From your link I can see that the head isn't even affected. And it'll take about 3 seconds to take it off, first the top bit, then the flappy mask bit.
It's closer to 3 actually. More than enough time for Vader to block it with his hand.
Yeah, good idea, no sense going on about this. Didn't I just say that?
And yeah.
What we are NOT doing here is looking at how Harry and Vader approach one on one battles. Vader against a jedi, Harry against Voldy or the dragon. How they approach these battles is likely how this matchup plays out.
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Also, let's discuss Protego, what it is, according to what is seen in the movies.
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You probably quoted the wrong post. No where in that post do you see "force choke".
Even if we humor your attempt to null Force Choke (which doesn't apply, at all), which is easily used in a fight (just silly), we do know that it takes quite a while for Harry to get angry enough to even do that spell that is NOT engorgio. He takes a while...had to get very angry...so it is not a good idea for Harry to attempt to use it as he'd be dead many times over by the time he actually uses it.
Also, Protego does nothing to stop the force. Remember, the Force is not Magic and Magic is not the force.
If Vader tries a force push OUTSIDE of a shield charm that protects against physical forces, it won't work. Inside...Harry gets pwned.
If Vader force chokes Harry inside of his shield charms, which he can't do until Deathly Hollows which isn't out yet, it happens, no problem.
The best Harry can do is Felix Felicis potion BEFORE the fight or getting some type of prep before the fight. Other than that, Vader is too fast and deadly for an unprepared Harry.
Why does anyone bother debating RJ when Harry Potter is involved? Serious question. I ask myself; I think I'm a fool for trying.
As seen, he'll ride the gimped-horse on Vader into the ground, by trying to adhere/twist to the strictest definitions of the rules, ie 'Vader can only Force-crush things in a small room that are right next to him' or 'Vader can't use Force-choke in a fight', yet he'll insist Potter can cast spells he's never shown actually casting. Biased, much?
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That's a bold statement, dude. You have no evidence to back it up with, except for "The force is not magic and magic is not the force." What the **** does that mean anyway?
"Water is not dirt and dirt is not water" FTW?
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Think about it. Can item A affect item B if item A is stronger than B?
Example, adamantium versus durasteel (shitty example, I know, but just go with it)
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the problem with that analogy is that adamantium and durasteel are both physical objects. the force and magic are both ethereal entities which exist on supernatural planes,and they also don't adhere to logic. so comparing them is not as simple as comparing two different types of metal or one person to another
OK, which, in your opinion, is stronger overall in the movies? The force or HP magic? Can't get any more straightforward than that.
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That works both ways, Rob. If Vader had no idea what magic was, and Potter "waved his little wand" at him, how will Vader know what to do? Alot of HP spells are invisible too.
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Agreed, only thing Vader could attempt to counter with the Force would be physical aspects of the magic spell(s), eg the flying blast of the death spell, fire etc.
That's irrelevant, as Potter would be Force-choked, Force-pushed or Force-crushed to death first.
Easy with the force choke, big guy, let's continue discussing which is stronger, HP magic or the force.
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Why? Because Potter loses to it, among a couple other options?
In the films as shown, magic is, as it has more diversity and specific applications for doing things, while the Force is mainly a physical-abilities booster, telekinesis and sense-booster. Force-lighting, being specifically an attack.
Edit: Unless we go by words, then the Force is greater than something that can destroy a planet.
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And it'll take about 3 seconds to take it off, first the top bit, then the flappy mask bit.
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