Gungnir did nothing more than act as a conduit for Odin to control and channel his blasts better. It doesn't amp Odin's attacks fool. At least not back then.
? Thor didn't fight Odin because he was his father moron. Not because he was frightened. That's why during the Olympus/Asgard/Olympia war, he fought Odin head to head without running. At that time he believed Odin to be in his right mind while doing the wrong thing, hence why he stood up to him.
Anywhere near as long? I count four direct attacks from a blood lusted Odin against Thor and one where he unleashes a blast that destroys the area Thor and he were in. Most of them right in his face. I count 4 attacks against Thanos from Odin (1 of which he seemed to be protected by a force field.) plus the moment when Thanos walks through Gungnir's blast and grabs the spear. Thanos tanked a bit more but what stands out to me about the Thor incident is that Odin was in Galaxy busting mode in this arc, and Thor didn't even seem to be in pain from these attacks.
And just so you know, a holding back Thor once withstood a direct blast from Odin wielding Gungnir and was only down and relatively unharmed. And this after fighting Gilgamesh, El Toro, the Destroyer armor, getting tossed around by the One Above All etc. in the last 24 hours.
Yes, by resorting to a weapon like a coward. Haha, now Thanos can beat Odin as well?
Thor was put down by the combined power of the U-Foes, Iron Patriot, Moonstone, Magma, and Quicksand I believe. He wasn't even out. And this was after being slammed into the ground by a Sentry ready for war. I don't see it as a low showing. Thanos being unable to put down Bug, and having trouble with Groot however is a low showing.
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Stop quaneuvering. You literally JUST said that Odin stopped because he was "taken back by Thanos' resolve." That's not why Odin stopped. He stopped because Sif convinced him, as you just admitted. Good job proving yourself wrong and acting like you were consistent.
I never once stated that Odin has to gain size in order to go all-out. Him growing gigantic is evidence of Odin going all-out. Other instances involve him absorbing all of Asgard's power or all of the Designate's power or being involved in cataclysmic battles across space and time or literally stating he is using his full might. Writers have different ways of portraying Odin going all-out that are supremely evident. Starlin clearly did not intend that here. Odin chastized Thanos most ignobly.
I stated nobody agreed with you on "Thanos > Void >>>>>> Odin" and that Thanos stalemated Odin. And nobody does. Don't project your utter lack of support on those inane theories onto your butt-hurt arguments concerning the UN and the IG. Accordingly, you simply confused my statements and further haven't shown that most people supported you in that thread, in fact, that's a lie. And thus you remain wrong as the sky is blue. Keep your delusions to yourself.
He channeled more of his energy into more potent blasts and the length of time Thanos was under the one blast caused most of the damage.
Thor didn't fight his father because he knew he couldn't beat him. There's no way for Thor to beat Odin all out. None. Zero. He knew it, I know it, why don't you know it?
They weren't similar attacks noro did Thor run through any concentrated blasts. Thor fled like a coward whereas Thanos met him head on. Odin relented first not Thanos.
Thor never ran through a concentrated blast from gungir. Duration under blasts obviously causes more damage than a quick blast here or there. Common sense, please.
Odin was never able to best Thanos and had ample time to do so and failed.
He recovered from the Sentry's attack. It's funny how attacks matter when it's against Thor but against the Sentry you said Thor just killed him ignoring all prior damage done and showing how off your comprehension is. Bendis made it clear whereas you don't get it until he made it clear. You aren't bright enough to understand the writer's intent whereas I am.
Thor was dominated by the ufoes. Sentry wrecked asgard. Sentry took on the avengers, Thor, and Loki. He was well beyond them all.
He stopped fighting because he was shcoked he still lived and was even more astonished when he realized Thanos wasn't going to yield. Then Odin figured out he's an idiot and was in the wrong and quit the fight.
We saw Thanos' upper limits finally challenged as a peer of Odin. Odin was trying his hardest to defeat Thanos. Odin's been defeated prior to this without going supersize or threatening the cosmos. This writer clearly intended for Odin not to be holding back because in the situation they were in how much sense does that make? You don't get it and you never will. Do I need to ask this writer this question just to shut you up?
How do you know? Blackbolt agreed I won even after attacking me personally. I won that debate and am winning this one. When I win I don't get butthurt the only thing that hurts here is your reading comprehension.
You're truly delusional. Odin stopped because Sif convinced him Thanos meant him no harm. Odin didn't stop because he was shocked Thanos was living and wouldn't yield. In fact, those two facts were propelling Odin to continue fighting. You can't possibly be this stupid.
Yes. And Thanos' upper limits were clearly deficient. You only have to start making sense for me to retract bashing your delusional fantasies about Thanos "matching" Odin. Thanos lost. Get over it:
(please log in to view the image) Look at the responses you're getting here in this thread. And everybody here thinks you lost and are a horrible debater. Guess when you make appeals to masses (like you're trying to do when pointing to Black bolt z in another discussion), you still lose. Seriously, stop projecting your butt-hurt onto others. We're not sharing in your perrenial stink simply because we deconstruct your poor arguments. And what's ever MORE ironic is Black bolt z agreed with me that the UN was more powerful than the IG. Man, you just keep sticking your foot into your mouth, don't you?
Odin stopped before that when he gave Thanos a chance to yield. Odin was about to re engage and then Sif showed up. That's exactly what happened. Odin stopped twice and I think you might be this ignorant. He stopped when he thought Thanos was dead and when he gave him a chance to give up and he stopped when Sif showed up and saved his life.
That's a clone whereas the comic ends with both facing each other. If someone asks if you give up and you don't is that a loss in your mind? Honestly.
Yes, he gave Thanos a chance to yield, Thanos didn't take it and Odin was damn ready to stomp on Thanos some more. Odin paused twice to give Thanos a chance to save himself. Not because Odin was dismayed by Thanos. It was Sif who saved Thanos' life, you're damn right about that.
No, the comic ended with Thanos shakily struggling to stand while smoking and dusting the rubble off himself. If someone outclasses the opponent that badly, yes, that's a loss.
You win the "special person" award. Congratulations. In the meantime, with your constant squirming out of losing arguments, you manage to stick your foot into your mouth again and again. That takes talent. A "special person's" kind of talent.
^ You've clearly gone off the deep-end. Let me know when you're done escalating your phail. You've gone from" Odin didn't beat Thanos," to "Odin was stalemated by Thanos," to "Odin's life saved by Sif when she stopped his fight with Thanos."
Thanos was already going all-out and didn't do sh1te except eat rubble and geting knocked on his butt. Constantly.
Your constant premature declarations of victory evince how upset you are that nobody will agree with you here. Keep your Thanos/Odin phail out of this thread.
It makes sense that Odin's life was threatened by Thanos and Sif saved Odin's life? You do realize that Odin was the dude with the beard who was standing and had kicked the crap out of the purple dude who was struggling to stand up at the end, right? Amirite?
He was there to get his attention. And he managed to get his butt kicked up and down Asgard. Thanos would never permit anybody to beat him down with such impunity. Which invariably means, he didn't let Odin toss him around like a rag doll. Thanos just couldn't help it because he was outclassed.
Thanos loses to Void by your rationale. Your rationale is truly unique in that it almost always manages to undermine something else you've argued for.
Why do you even bother anymore ODG? This shtick of his to be an idiotic troll is obviously just that, a shtick. His not this stupid. I refuse to believe anyone who can turn on a computer without assistance is.
There's honestly no point in debating with him further. I learned that a while ago. At this point I just argue with him when I want some amusement and don't when I get bored.
You do realize Thanos was there to save his son and was only getting further enraged by Odin's actions and his patience was wearing thin, right? Odin failed to beat him and Thanos was about to get real nasty.
Thanos wasn't trying to kill him he wasn't there to invade and defeat Odin in battle. Odin's only advantage was his weapon prior to it was pretty even.
No, Thanos attacks his mind via Maker.
Stick to the topic where Void beats Thor's ass yet again.
So Odin saluted children? What? Another post which rams home the fact you don't comprehend what you read.
Thanos was not getting enraged. Pretending that Thanos was about to reverse the course of the fight and Odin's life was saved by Sif is a fool's errand.
Thanos was goading Odin to get his undivided attention. If Thanos could have helped it at all, that wouldn't have involved him getting his butt kicked up and down Asgard. Thanos wouldn't have permitted it -- again, if he could help it at all -- which means he didn't have a choice in the matter. Too outclassed.
I'm attacking your logic that Void would kick RKT's ass. Because you think that Void is well above Odin and therefore above RKT. That's nonsense, because you still can't admit that would solidify Void kicking the crap out of Thanos. Self-serving, much?
Why was the Void killed in the first place? How so? Thanos was there to get his help not kill the man and he was only further enraging him. Odin already showed us he failed to even defeat Thanos when he was trying to kill him so based on what we saw how does he win?
Thanos was challenging him not getting his ass kicked hence Odin's words to Thanos.
Thanos attacks the Void's mind whereas Thor doesn't. I know you can't respond to this because like usual you dodge my reasoning and your brain cannot focus and you want to derail this thread into another Thanos debate.
Void wins here.
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Thanos was challenging him. Thanos still got his butt kicked. Hence, Odin's offerings of mercy. Thanos was lucky Sif saved him from Odin's further wrath.
You have absolutely no evidence to suggest that Odin could not penetrate Void's mind or suppress it. Emma Frost did so. For you to suggest that Emma Frost would best Odin in a telepathic struggle is nonsense. Odin penetrated PG Thor's fractured psyche, whereas Thanos with the Soul Gem and Mind Gems at his disposal completely failed.
And Void defeats Thanos handily by your logic. Concession accepted.
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