It absolutely is, if we're comparing it to his earlier feats of manipulating a dovin basal and using the Force to tether himself to the ground so that not even a black hole could move him.
Luke not only had to counter that sith lord's power (and that sith was stated to be a match for Kyp or Kyle) but the shuttle's thrusters as well, as well as the sheer size of the shuttle. And I'm pretty sure that the shuttle has far more powerful thrusters than the shuttles we use today.
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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: You do know what the ignore function on our user control panel does, right? It literally prevents me from reading your posts. If you're so desperate for my attention, simply apologize for your stupidity and make a solemn vow to correct it.
First of all, although I was responding to your post my response was directed towards anyone interested in this discussion.
Second of all, I understand how the ignore function works. I tried it before on Lord Lucien, but eventually couldn't resist reading his posts. Hence why I don't see the point of it; if you don't want to read someone's posts just don't read them.
Third of all, if you ignore all of my posts, how are you going to read an apology?
Oh, and a question: does the ignore function also block PM's?
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Last edited by Hewhoknowsall on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 10:49 PM
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Well, in a fight Mace would beat Caedus thanks to vapaad/shatterpoint. But without putting them against eachother, it's debatable.
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
That Caedus is (probably) second only to Luke in the new Jedi Order era does not mean he's second only to Luke period. Off ze top of my head,
Palpatine, Yoda, Kyp Durron, Vader, Dooku, Ragnos, Bane, Sadow, Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma, UnuThul, Lord Nyax, and Galen Marek (Starkiller) have either demonstrated powers or, through canon statements, exhibit enough status to be on par or greater than Caedus.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: And if I were you, (for future reference) I would pretty much ignore everything HWKN says unless a more experienced and established member happens to agree; this guy thinks Luke could solo the fvcking Empire.
1. Of the ones stated, only Sidious, Yoda, Bane, Kun, UnuThul and Galen could possibly to greater on their own power.
2. Gideon is lying. First of all, I said Luke + the NJO Council kills Sidious, not Luke alone (although Luke alone probably could). Secondly, after that the Empire would still exist, although it would fragment, and it would still take the GFFA and its allies to defeat the remnants of the Empire.
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BUT me and gideon have proven that non-luke believers and luke believers can live together peaceably AS LONG As we just don't call the other out as wrong all the time.
I agree with you , I am going to explain my opinion :
It was clearly explained that luke dominated completely the duel, furthermore, Caedus was able to contend luke only because of many objects of tortures .
I didn't understand why you wrote advantages while it would be rather about disadvantages(old wounds for luke, Ben who is is really stupid during this fight...
What, have you ever read lotf and backlash ?
In lotf luke fights three times lumiya, the results:
2 victories for luke and an equality.
And this "no-name Sith Lords "was declared as powerful as Kyle Katarn or Kyp Durron, he is besides completely dominated by luke .
Gideon keeps on focusing on Luke's supposedly lower showings, but actually many of them can be explained. The only one really that can't that I know of is that him and Mara vs a droideka one, which was pretty much PIS.
For example, he supposedly struggled against the Hidden One. However, we need to remember that the Hidden One is an unknown, yet Luke is not. Therefore, we don't know if that is a high or low showing for Luke since we can't exactly quantify the Hidden One's power. However, since we can quantify Luke's power, we can have the fight as a high showing for the Hidden One in that he stood up to a quantifiable opponent (Luke), but not a low feat for Luke since for all we know the Hidden One couldn't been UBER POWERFUL!!!!!
And for that shuttle one in FOTJ: Backlash, remember that Luke was pulling down against the weight of the shuttle, the thrusters of the shuttle (which are likely far more powerful than those found on Earth's) AND the telekinesis counter of the sith lord, who was stated to be on Kyp's and Kyle's level (well, at least at dueling; his Force power wasn't stated).
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You do realize you (the least respected debater) are constantly butting heads with the most respected and established debater on the forum? As a result, you are constantly being totally and utterly devastated.