__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Based on the weakest characters of the series able to dodge attacks that took out a moon in an instant.
Are you sure you know what PIS is or understand it?
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
There are 2 instances of ki attacks moving fast enough to destroy the moon in a short time, and there are at least 2 instances of regular humans tracking their blasts. There's also no instances of ki blast being spoken of as moving faster later in the series that I recall, feel free to correct me, if that is the case, they were ftl at the start of the series, so ki blast later on in the series should have been no problem to dodge.
Nice ad hominem, are you sure you can act like an adult?
Silver Surfer does not fall under the same genre as Thor, nor does Spider-Man or Batman- they each star in their own, and since the creation of their characters have helped pave the way for artists and authors to depict effects and styles tailored for each said genre.
In Thor's case, that had nothing to do with lightning volleys of punches. When they thought that Thor's speed should be mentioned, it was, and otherwise it wasn't a focal point- because the Thor fans didn't care to hear about his tremendous speed every comic, which didn't mesh nearly as well with the rest of his character as his ridonk strength, his divine might and his warrior heritage.
Nowadays since they've discovered that throwing all these characters at each other is a great way to make a lot of money, the genre lines are blurring, but if you can't see the tremendous difference between the common artistic (both written and drawn) choices made in, say, Superman comics to those in Thor comics, you're just being dense, probably on purpose.
IMO you're the one being rude. Insulting the intelligence of everyone here by acting as though people watching a Z fight on TV or "tracking a ki blast" somehow doesn't fall into the category of PIS but is instead a legitimate representation of these people NOT having superspeed to an insane degree...
And it is insulting when you understand the structure of the series. Roshi and Krillin moved too fast for people to see the first time they ever fought in a tournament.
To insist that speed isn't the norm because of PIS reasons doesn't somehow make a legitimate argument. In fact it's as legitimate as Thor not being as fast as a Z fighter due to lack of afterimages.
Obviously the ki blasts had to be faster or no character would be troubled with dodging them later in the series... especially if (according to your suggestion) the blasts traveled slower than the fighters at the beginning of the series could move themselves. That's a massive logical disconnect that only plays into this lowballing bullshit I already talked about.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
meh, thor just has to land one blow on vegeta with a thrown mjolnir and it's game over. he doesn't even need to move his feet.
thor has the best shield & sword here in the form of mjolnir, and the strength and durability to make it incredibly lethal.
vegeta has a wide array of energy attacks which would be excellent against most other opponents, but they are usable against him due to mjolnir. vegeta's likely response to a reflected attack would be an angry face, some boast about his true might, and then attempt to use an even larger blast on thor
Speed is just about the only advantage someone can clearly claim Vegeta has over Thor, and even then, sheer speed alone isn't enough to get around every other advantage that Thor has here.
More like his Dues Ex-Machina named Mjolnir.... but I digress.. It's one hell of a Dues Ex.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
and there are fundamental artistic rules that are true of all characters from comics
when they move at super speed, they have a blur or after image if they're moving really fast. it doesn't matter if they're cosmic, mystical, street, etc. the guidelines for drawing speed doesn't change depending on the origin of a character, only on the nature of the speed.
First off, el oh el, I'm sure you were deeply offended. Nice way of trying to write off your assholish demeanor.
Actually, I meant to question your reasoning of them being ftl based on attacks that have been displayed at varying levels of speed, and only 2 of those times being at speeds around c. You're extrapolating their speeds based on 2 feat, unless you have other examples that I have forgotten, which is possible.
KMC Community Forums
"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Jun 22nd, 2010 03:58 AM
