except if anyone on the first page of this thread has ever played though Bayonetta you'd know she too has legitimate lightning dodging feats while NOT in witch time
The thing is, he provided verifiable evidence, which I verified for myself. Thats why I said he is correct. I already told you I'm not a bandwagon jumper.... What is it that you've got to say against the evidence he provided? I mean, even if he did rip it from Wiki, if it is proven correct, then there's no arguing it.
This is how debates are resolved, through verification of evidence. Even if the source is as questionable as Wiki, the fact is, if he's gone over it like he usually does, and validated it himself, then it's admissable evidence despite the source because of a second verification.
You may not like it, maybe even loath it, but when your proven wrong, then your proven wrong until you can counter the evidence.
she gets free shots whenever she makes a dodge, can morph to move which triples her speed and agility, not saying she wins, but she doesn't get stomped out like everyone is making out. Kratos doesn't out perform her to a vast degree in any particular catagory save damage soak.
Bayonetta finally finds her dream man and the two have hardcore sex like never seen before. Seriously, Kratos makes Bayonetta climax with her ****ing lolipop, if he doesn't kill her first.
If anyone was doubting our claims on the speed of lightning, here is an official source.
It claims lightning is 220,000 kilometers per hour. Simply divide this by 3,600 to evaluate how many kilometers it will travel in a second, and you get 61.1. Multiply this by a thousand to get the meters it will travel in the same time, and the number is 61,000 meters per second, roughly 60,000, which was our claim.
So suck it and **** it Dev.
Nao Juken, when did Bayonetta dodge litninz? I cannot recall, played, but was utterly forgettable.
Also, I would wager physically Kratos would absolutely dominate Bayonetta, in durability he eclipses her as well. Keeping Cronos from crushing him and catching the Blade of Olympus in his hands is pretty neato.
ja, thats the vibe im getting on this thread, no one liked the game much so bayonetta loses
Any way she dodges lightining on multiple accounts throughout the game, when you have to access locked areas and can only do so in witch time, you - trigger the switch, and must dodge a lightning strike in order to activate your witch time. And i must say, i know 'lightning is lightning' but her lightning is a much much MUCH faster strike than the one Kratos dodges from Zeus.
As for dominate physically, he might be stronger - thats a MIGHTBE , because how do you rate his Giant slaying against her 1000GIGATON attacks , without bias? Its arguable nonetheless. Speed, id rate her controlled application of her impressive MA porwess as an argument for better combat speed. Its hard to gauge with two different engines, but Kratos is simply not shown to be capable of some of the feats bayonetta is. But she could verywell dominate through his game as she is.
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Yes, yes, and infinitons, too. Simply put: Her attacks show nothing of this level, it's just a neato number that shows up to make the game even moar tacky.
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based on what? She makes it look easy so that means two things..either she's DAMN strong, or the enemies are damn weak. Only bias leads to whatever answer you want to get from that...What specific strength feat from Kratos can you refer to that Bayonettas summon monster couldnt achieve?
are we discussing powersets here, or how bad you think the game is, if this was a popularity contest Kratos would stomp, but everywhere i turn theres people throwing in cheap shots about shit that doesnt matter ' utterly forgettable' 'moar tacky' what does this have to dowith her powerset?
Lol at the debating skill in this thread, i mean really?
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again based on what? these wernt pussy cats she was facing..Summons arnt really outside help though are they? I mean, how can they be classed as outside help when she uses them in every encounter, kinda strikes me as the norm in her powerset. But stips are stips i suppose , i'll say shes too quick for him combat wise and leave it at that. She leaves the enemies like statues when she witchtimes, and when NOT in witchtime these enemies dodge supernatural gunfire, which means they are no slouches in speed either, and she can evade indefinetley. While he - and you cant deny this - attacks like a brute in a bar room brawl, she has all the finesse, all the agility, all the skill and intangability, gunfire for annoyance and a lucky eyeshot, morphing so he can't stay close, air dodge so she's never commited unless shes certain of an attack..
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Summons are actually not generally allowed by default in most threads to my knowledge, because it's like pulling a bunch of giant laser-shoosting frinds your your back pocket to fight for you, as opposed to fighting one on one.
Also, based on the fact that even though the tv screen says 1000 gigatons, the actual power behind her blows shows to be FAR less. Do you know how much force that is? she never exhibits anything close.
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1. To be fair to me I hate DMC even moar, at least Bayonetta had some likeable aspects. Me disliking Bayonetta is nothing no one shouldn't have expected.
2. Yeah, that is a lightning-timed feat.
3. Uh, dude, I don't count that for the same reason I do not think Balrog's Gigaton punch weighs a billion tons, or that the Megaton Hammer Link uses weighs a million. Without feats the name is meaningless. Not to mention... Kratos has resisted being crushed by Atlas, whom can lift much more than a Gigaton, and Cronos, who is even larger than Atlas and has been carrying a mountain-sized fortress for thousands of years. I could accept Bayonetta having better functional combat speed. Kratos is a better fighter than Bayonetta though, there is a difference between efficiency and flash. And Bayonetta has not shown to be capable of some of the feats Kratos is.
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Nonsense, he's stronger fine, ill conceed but a better fighter? Just because she's flashy? She has better martial skill no doubt. Her flashy ness in grounded in etensive MA you can see that, he's a brute in comparison, are you really contesting this?
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Function > Flash.
Edit: K, I'll let her have anything that's more buff than summon, so long as no extra entities arrive to do the fighting for her. Didn't realise her power set was so grounded in demanding halpz.
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Try any of the things Bayonetta does against anyone who has any idea what they are doing. Tell me how effective it is.
Bayonetta's fighting style is overtly flashy and inefficient, Kratos's gets straight to the point, he doesn't do a spinning cartwheel kick before tearing you in half, he tears you in half. Kratos is able to efficiently wield awkward weapons like his chain blades easily and efficiently, Kratos kills people, his style is centered on doing just that, killing people.
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Jun 14th, 2010 01:43 PM
Outside help isn't a one on one fight. 
