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Originally posted by Black bolt z
1. Who can survive a beating from WWH the longest before being KOed?Superman,surfer,thor

2. Who can survive the hottest temperature before being burned?superman/surfer,thor

3. Who can withstand the greatest pressure before being crushed?See 3

4. Who can withstand the most pressure from an adamantium spike before being pierced?Surfer,superman,thor

5. Who can withstand the most energy blasts from Thanos before being KOed?Tie

6. Who can withstand the most powerful telepathic assault?Surfer,thor,supes

7. Who can withstand the strongest attack imbued with magic?Thor,surfer,supes

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Originally posted by janus77
things that make you go hmm...

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Originally posted by Black bolt z
SHUT UP!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Starscream M

3. Who can withstand the greatest pressure before being crushed?

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Originally posted by Starscream M
Everyone is in their normal state.

Rank in order from most durable to least in each of the following situations:

1. Who can survive a beating from WWH the longest before being KOed?
Superman,Thor, Surfer
2. Who can survive the hottest temperature before being burned?
Superman, Surfer, Thor
3. Who can withstand the greatest pressure before being crushed?
Superman,Surfer,Thor
4. Who can withstand the most pressure from an adamantium spike before being pierced?
Surfer,Superman, Thor
5. Who can withstand the most energy blasts from Thanos before being KOed?
Thor,Superman,Surfer
6. Who can withstand the most powerful telepathic assault?
Thor,Superman,Surfer
7. Who can withstand the strongest attack imbued with magic?
Thor,Surfer,Superman

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Originally posted by Warlord
maybe I'm wrong but wasn't surfer one shoted by Thanos while Thor has done better?

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Originally posted by biensalsa
Superman vs Silver Surfer vs Thor: Durability Trials

Everyone is in their normal state.

Rank in order from most durable to least in each of the following situations:

1. Who can survive a beating from WWH the longest before being KOed?
Superman, Thor , SS (SS has a glass jaw)

2. Who can survive the hottest temperature before being burned?
Superman, SS, Thor (Superman survived a Red giant while surrounded by K)

3. Who can withstand the greatest pressure before being crushed?
Superman/SS, Thor (can't decide here)

4. Who can withstand the most pressure from an adamantium spike before being pierced?
Superman/SS, Thor (Thor was pierced by Wolwerine)

5. Who can withstand the most energy blasts from Thanos before being KOed?
Superman/SS, Thor, But it Thor deflects with Mjolnir then is Thor, Superman/SS

6. Who can withstand the most powerful telepathic assault?
SS,Thor, Superman?

7. Who can withstand the strongest attack imbued with magic?
Thor, SS, Superman

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Originally posted by One-Punch
Yet you post a [b]cross-over...hypocrite much?

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You're definitely no expert on continuity, you yell retcon and non-canon whenever it suits you argument without references. You were wrong about Epic Illustrated #1 being non-canon for Surfer (see below) so either prove they're non-canon or stop crying wolf.

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Wrong again.

The only thing Solaris did was make it seem like Superman attacked the audience and turned him into a fugitive so everyone attacked him. Hence why Captain Metamorpho attacked him.

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Provide an issue and page # to back your claim.

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This Brute that tanked Superman's HV was later incinerated by being tossed into the sun.
http://s16.postimg.org/oogppfg4l/P00059.jpg

The sun is nothing to Surfer, what does that tell you?

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Wrong yet again, Diode never beat Superman in that story--seems like your memory is failing.

I can post the entire comic too, but instead I'll just post the part where Diode comes out of retirement to make a comeback:
http://s12.postimg.org/5y7er6o2l/P00006.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/c0f1hocil/P00010.jpg

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So you're saying you can ride a supernova without touching it?

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That makes absolutely no sense. How do you ride something without touching it? It's not like Surfer is using a space-ship. All he has is a surfboard.

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You're also ignoring the narration that says the gasses released "catch" Surfer.

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And lol at the Goddess example. Superman stated himself he'd be incinerated by the sun during the Eradicator arc, should we take his word?

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In terms of heat energy durability Superman has been hurt and burned several times.

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Superman was KTFO by a supernova's wave of destruction.
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums...texplosion1.jpg
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums...texplosion2.jpg

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Hurt by jet fuel in that's thousands of Fahrenheit.
http://s1.postimg.org/btv4hkz3z/P00045.jpg
http://s1.postimg.org/8uo7ugpmn/P00154.jpg

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Eradicator channeling energy from the sun's core KOs Superman with its heat vision.
http://s1.postimg.org/vafu43u7z/P00046.jpg

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Eradicator burns and sears through Superman's skin.
http://s1.postimg.org/jszhcne7z/P00043.jpg

Burns Superman's face up again.
http://s1.postimg.org/6nfdssuyn/P00073.jpg

Eradicator burns and sears Superman's eyes shut, phucks up his face with burns.
http://s1.postimg.org/g98y93m4f/P00074.jpg

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Eradicator burns Superman's face some more, tosses him in the sun.
http://s1.postimg.org/4f5sp7d8f/P00101.jpg
http://s1.postimg.org/v2s77lj9b/P00102.jpg

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Superman can feel the atomic flames through his invulnerability.
http://s1.postimg.org/qlzu8x51b/P00086.jpg

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Superman gets KTFO by the fire pits of Apocalypse.
http://s1.postimg.org/rpjykvpof/P00090.jpg
http://s1.postimg.org/runpujwzj/P00091.jpg
http://s1.postimg.org/w6cbjk3wf/P00092.jpg

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Gets his hand seared by a mind-controlled Volcana.
http://s1.postimg.org/6ywu5kben/P00059.jpg

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Superman gets KTFO for an entire day from a sun-eater explosion.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...anSunEater1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...anSunEater2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...anSunEater3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...anSunEater4.jpg

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No wonder other people's HV goes through him like butter. Just 'cause other people's HV go through Superman doesn't mean it'll go through Surfer. Feats aren't transferable, and you have to proof Superman's heat resistance is the same as Surfers and by the looks of it, it's not close.

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Superman going into or near yellow suns don't count for obvious reasons.

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Again shared feat by combining two HV and Martian Vision. Show him replicating it solo.

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The narration states the combo HV created a volcanic eruption. For a "heat pulse that rival's the sun's rebirth" it sure is underwhelming, unless you don't think it might be...*GASP! Hyperbole?

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And if Superman's HV was so powerful, why did he need to sundip to heat up Earth?

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So?

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In that issue Ego references how he was able to drive off a hungry Galactus--which happened in 616 continuity.

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Later on in Marvel Adventures #13 Surfer references how Reed originally used the ultimate nullifier to drive Galactus away from Earth--this happened in 616 continuity

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Surfer also references how Galactus eventually removed the barrier around Earth--this happened in 616 continuity

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In the same issue Surfer is lured to counter-earth, and it's referenced how the High Evolutionary originally created counter-earth. This happened in 616 continuity and to my knowledge counter-earth has only been shown to exist in the 616 universe.

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The Skrulls reference how they originally tried to invade Earth, but were driven away by the FF4--again this happened in 616 continuity.

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That's 5 references to 616 continuity.

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Epic Illustrated #1 is canon for Surfer:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/meltdown.htm

1. "Epic Illustrated featured a SS story that is in-continuity, as it was cited in the FF Index#4 entry"

And if we check the Official Marvel Index of the Fantastic Four:

Excerpt ... under "Villains"



Credit to Mr. Master

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Turns out Surfer's appearance in Epic Illustrated #1 is chronologically Surfer's 1st appearance in continuity.

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You're full of crap trying to claim you actually know anything about continuity. So either provide proof for your "non-canon" claims, or stop crying wolf.

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Answer the question: does superman derive his power from the sun, or power cosmic?

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Surfer says the sun is nothing to him, but power cosmic is.

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The method is irrelevant. The end product is still 'agitation of molecules' which is the literal definition of heat.

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And Sarkaas dissed it by saying its only useful at the micro, and useless for macro objects.

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Sure it does, but let's not pretend heat isn't a large part of it since it is called HEAT vision for a reason.

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Your own scan betrays you and says it causes 'agitation of molecules' which is the scientific definition of heat.

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Here HV is described as a "concentrated beam of extreme heat."
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...ntratedHeat.jpg

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Superman isn't Cyclops.

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I'm claiming Surfer can absorb concussive blast and proved it via the scan, learn to read.

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But if Surfer wanted he could absorb Superman's heat vision and amp himself, just as easily as Cauldron did:
http://s13.postimg.org/y91v37nk7/P00052.jpg

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The energy beam from the 6 infinity gems had enough energy to rejuvenate a solar system. Yes it was blasting because Nova tried tanking the beam and was nearly killed. Later on in the same book Nova easily tanks a point blank supernova.
http://s22.postimg.org/a04rcvt75/Si...1988_009_15.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/jagvgf3wx/Si...1988_009_16.jpg
http://s22.postimg.org/pa4mk2opd/Si...1988_009_18.jpg

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And before you post your nonsense about how "a black hole nearly kills Surfer and Nova" go read SS Vol.3 #15 and #18 where Surfer (and later Nova) travel into that very same black hole unscathed.

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Major Force isn't Silver Surfer. [/B]

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Originally posted by One-Punch
Absolutely false. That amp wasn't permanent.

It was stated in the comic TWICE that Superman's powers went back to normal. Comics supersede ambiguous editor comments.

Hamilton confirms Superman's power is back to normal.

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Later confirmed again by Martha.

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When Superman got his power-up it was made clear he no longer needed to breath in space, and can travel in space without worrying.
http://s12.postimg.org/4vlbwg9ct/P00079.jpg

After losing his power-up Superman needed to breath oxygen again. If his power-up was permanent he would've retained his ability not needing oxygen.

Needs the Motherbox to breathe in space.
http://s12.postimg.org/felblmc0t/P00168.jpg

Can only hold his breath for 2-3 hours:
http://s12.postimg.org/ksk3t61r1/P00055.jpg

Needs oxygen mask to breathe in space:
http://s12.postimg.org/z5djrhlr1/P00081.jpg
http://s12.postimg.org/ve3z5682l/P00084.jpg

Needs Kyle to create an oxygen mask for him in space:
http://s12.postimg.org/q056xmicd/P00087.jpg

Chokes from lack of air even though he's near the sun:
http://s12.postimg.org/l90q1v04d/P00092.jpg

Superman was consistently portrayed as needing oxygen all the way until he trained with Mongul to expand his lung capacity:
http://s12.postimg.org/9y2nr8in1/P00117.jpg

Like I said, comic books overrule amiguous editor comments, especially if the comments are directly contradicted by the comics.

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Originally posted by Starscream M
Everyone is in their normal state.

Rank in order from most durable to least in each of the following situations:

1. Who can survive a beating from WWH the longest before being KOed?
2. Who can survive the hottest temperature before being burned?
3. Who can withstand the greatest pressure before being crushed?
4. Who can withstand the most pressure from an adamantium spike before being pierced?
5. Who can withstand the most energy blasts from Thanos before being KOed?
6. Who can withstand the most powerful telepathic assault?
7. Who can withstand the strongest attack imbued with magic?

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Originally posted by -Pr-
WT****ing ****, Abhi.