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will be watching the special in 1 hr and 6 minutes


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I thought that episode was kind of like, really, really, really deep up its own ass. I've just read that Mark Gatiss was criticizing Tarantino the other day for being too indulgent. Rarely has such an ironic and hypocritical statement been said.

It'd have been better [SPOILER - highlight to read]: played as a straight Victorian episode. The present day framing added nothing, and just let there final third fall into total incoherence.


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Yeah I agree. I did enjoy it though.


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So necro bump and all, but I thought I caught something in the finale that I haven't seen anyone else mention. I wanted to say it to...someone. I don't really have friends who watch Sherlock.

So in the finale (obvious spoiler ahead, and I'm not tagging all of it)...

There's the moment where he has to kill either Mycroft or John. Eurus comes on the comm and says that Jim foresaw this, before cutting to a clip of Moriarty saying "Holmes killing Holmes." But that wasn't it. Eurus got it wrong.

Flash back to S2E3:
Sherlock: Unless I kill myself and complete your story.
Moriarty: You gotta admit, thatís sexier.
Sherlock: And I die in disgrace.
Moriarty: Of course. Thatís the point of this.

Moriarty: Off you pop. I told you how this ends. Go on. Your death is the only thing thatís going to call off the killers. Iím certainly not going to do it.

Moriarty: What?! What is it? What did I miss?
Sherlock: Youíre not going to do it. So the killers can be called off then. Thereís a recall code or a word or a number. I donít have to die if Iíve got you.
Moriarty: Oh, you think you can make me stop the order? You think you can make me do that?
Sherlock: Yes. So do you.
Moriarty: Sherlock, your big brother and all the Kingís horses couldnít make me do a thing I didnít want to.
Sherlock: Yes, but Iím not my brother, remember? I am you. Prepared to do anything. Prepared to burn. Prepared to do what ordinary people wonít do. You want me to shake hands with you in hell, I shall not disappoint you.
Moriarty: Nah. You talk big. Nah. Youíre ordinary. Youíre ordinary. Youíre on the side of the angels.
Sherlock: Oh, I may be on the side of the angels, but donít think for one second that I am one of them.
Moriarty: No. Youíre not. I see. Youíre not ordinary. No. Youíre me. Youíre me. Thank you. Sherlock Holmes. Thank you. Bless you. As long as Iím alive, you can save your friends. Youíve got a way out. Well good luck with that. {he kills himself}


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So what did Moriarty see there? He saw that Sherlock was like him, willing to kill himself, to go to any lengths to achieve his goals. "Holmes killing Holmes" was indeed prescient, but because he foresaw Sherlock turning the gun on himself. Eurus didn't have the humanity to consider that, and she freaked.

Anyway, I think this is a legit connection between all of it. Any thoughts?


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