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Considering Lobo just fought 3 lanterns at the same time all the while not being serious and winning not being part of the agenda, I'd say that makes Altin look pretty damn good actually.

Deadpool slips and slides Lobo for awhile before he gets caught after Lobo catches on to his patterns. And then Lobo beats his ass and ties him up with his chains afterward. Can't escape? = default win for Lobo.
DP doesn't have a pattern.

No, Atlin looked shitty.

How is Lobo gonna catch and then tie DP up, DP is just gonna stand there?


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For Lobo I think he has tech for long range capture. I mean the main man has been a mercenary for how long? Almost guaranteed he's got something in the capacity of a knockout weapon or maybe a big and nigh unbreakable net launcher somewhere in his arsenal. Also despite being brought down to human level stats he is still going to be much bigger and stronger than deadpool, this comes down to a case of Marv vs. Kevin from Sin City. If he makes it so that he's getting clean shots in on deadpool its over.

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They have the same physical stats.


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I thought it was bringing Lobo down to human.. oh well Lobo still has massive tech advantage and also as it was said before he has a great deal of skills that he chooses not to use martial arts included because its just more fun that way. I mean a man whos been fighting for how many years and knows in the 10,000 +range of languages is probably going to know a little something more about fighting than most.
I'd say he could at the very least hold off Deadpool and also if they have identical stats that means that everyone who says that Lobo couldn't catch deadpool is talking utter crap. If the scenario is identical stats that means that dancing out of the way through superior speed is irrelevant. Lobo takes it easily in that case if CIS is off just because he's learned so much more than over his long life than Deadpool has in his along with his tech advantage.

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I thought it was bringing Lobo down to human.. oh well Lobo still has massive tech advantage and also as it was said before he has a great deal of skills that he chooses not to use martial arts included because its just more fun that way. I mean a man whos been fighting for how many years and knows in the 10,000 +range of languages is probably going to know a little something more about fighting than most.
I'd say he could at the very least hold off Deadpool and also if they have identical stats that means that everyone who says that Lobo couldn't catch deadpool is talking utter crap. If the scenario is identical stats that means that dancing out of the way through superior speed is irrelevant. Lobo takes it easily in that case if CIS is off just because he's learned so much more than over his long life than Deadpool has in his along with his tech advantage.
And yet no evidence of Lobo being a better fighter.

Only advantage is tech, and that's if the OP is allowing bfr.


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Deadpool is unimpressive. Lobo slaps Wade around like an average street whore.

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In this state Lobo's only chance - his tech. h2h he gets smacked around for eternity.


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Lobo physical attributes are reduced to be on par with Deadpools.


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I still say your underating Lobo skill. I mean it's just like his intelligence. Does he have it? yes he does but he doesn't use it just because it would make things not as much fun for him. If you're going to put 2 guys with equal stat with CIS off I go with the guy with more experience. He has encountered more and knows more than deadpool does and if it came down to him being depowered I don't think he would fight like he usually does. He would either use his tech to wipe deadpool easy or he would actually use his accumulated knowledge on fighting or just stick to his brawling skills which he has brushed up for who knows how long. I don't think people realize that just because your a street brawler doesn't mean your going to lose to some martial arts discipline guy.

I mean look at Chuck Zito and Jean Claude Van Damme. Jean is a karate black belt and Zito was only a boxer for a few years but Jean got punched out. Did he likely have more skill yes were their physical attributes similar yes though Zito had a strength advantage but nothing too overwhelming. I see the same thing here. Lobo might take the physical win and with his weapons and tech its guaranteed win.

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DP doesn't have a pattern.

No, Atlin looked shitty.

How is Lobo gonna catch and then tie DP up, DP is just gonna stand there?


-Perhaps 'pattern' was the wrong word. He has tendencies, or Lobo will simply learn to predict the unpredictable as is well within his powerset.

-He did MUCH better against Lobo than Hal did for the few moments when Carol and Sinestro weren't next to him. Altin is the best warrior of an alien race and was undefeated for years and a Green Lantern to boot. Deadpool can't claim to be the best human fighter or a Green Lantern, he has nothing to offer Lobo, not even insanity. Lobo is smarter, more experienced, and more insane as well.

-He's going to be beat his ass first. And simply swinging the chain around, he will eventually catch Deadpool anyway.


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I still say your underating Lobo skill. I mean it's just like his intelligence. Does he have it? yes he does but he doesn't use it just because it would make things not as much fun for him. If you're going to put 2 guys with equal stat with CIS off I go with the guy with more experience. He has encountered more and knows more than deadpool does and if it came down to him being depowered I don't think he would fight like he usually does. He would either use his tech to wipe deadpool easy or he would actually use his accumulated knowledge on fighting or just stick to his brawling skills which he has brushed up for who knows how long. I don't think people realize that just because your a street brawler doesn't mean your going to lose to some martial arts discipline guy.

I mean look at Chuck Zito and Jean Claude Van Damme. Jean is a karate black belt and Zito was only a boxer for a few years but Jean got punched out. Did he likely have more skill yes were their physical attributes similar yes though Zito had a strength advantage but nothing too overwhelming. I see the same thing here. Lobo might take the physical win and with his weapons and tech its guaranteed win.
Just wondering, you think I understimate Lobo by saying that Deadpool is a better fighter but you dont think that Id understimates Deadpool by saying this?
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Deadpool is unimpressive. Lobo slaps Wade around like an average street whore.

To be honest in comix skills matter more than experience. A character can fight for 300 years yet get beaten by a 40 year old with better training. And I do believe that Deadpool is better trained. Lobo though has more experience was relying on his powers his whole life and he's used to that, which puts him at disadvantage ones he gets depowered. Im not trying to be a jerk or anything but im just not ready to give him the edge in h2h just because he has more experience against someone who took on guys like Wolverine, Taskmaster, Iron Fist, Bullseye, Shatterstar, Sabertooth and won because of his skills.


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I'm not saying that Deadpool is going to get ripped in H2H I just think that Lobo is just one of those character's like Bleach's Kenpachi. He deliberately fights in the manner that he does to make it so his opponents can give him some form of entertainment. I honestly believe that overall Lobo is actually extremely skilled H2H it's just that he doesn't have the patience to apply them when one super powered punch will come to the same result. If Lobo really wanted to he could probably give someone like Braniac a run for his money in Intelligence and someone with that level of invulnerability and strength combined with an intelligence that can write a genetic virus to wipe out your own species for a high school science project which kills everyone except for you is someone who really doesn't care about much other than personal fun because they could in all likelihood take over the universe.

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Deadpool can't claim to be the best human fighter or a Green Lantern, he has nothing to offer Lobo, not even insanity. Lobo is smarter, more experienced, and more insane as well.
You're only partly right. Lobo is smarter and more experienced. Insanity is up for debate. And Deadpool is a better fighter. All that really matters in h2h. So if someone's gonna get his "ass beat" its gonna be Lobo. And Deadpool may not be a Green Lantern but he sure is among the best fighters. That is excluding crazy wtf guys like KK.


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I'm not saying that Deadpool is going to get ripped in H2H I just think that Lobo is just one of those character's like Bleach's Kenpachi. He deliberately fights in the manner that he does to make it so his opponents can give him some form of entertainment. I honestly believe that overall Lobo is actually extremely skilled H2H it's just that he doesn't have the patience to apply them when one super powered punch will come to the same result. If Lobo really wanted to he could probably give someone like Braniac a run for his money in Intelligence and someone with that level of invulnerability and strength combined with an intelligence that can write a genetic virus to wipe out your own species for a high school science project which kills everyone except for you is someone who really doesn't care about much other than personal fun because they could in all likelihood take over the universe.
That entertainment thing is also true for Deadpool btw.
And I see what you mean, but lets take Logan for example. He has adamantium claws and likes to end fights as fast as possible so he doesnt really need to display his skills when he can cut though anyone an anything in a second, yet he does display top-tier MA skills all the time. But i'll say it again I do not think that Lobo only relies on his powers, I KNOW he's a great fighter. But imo not on the level to beat someone like Deadpool in h2h in a depowered state.


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It doesn't matter if it's Karate Kid, Lobo won't go down in a fist fight.

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It doesn't matter if it's Karate Kid, Lobo won't go down in a fist fight.
No, he wont. But KK is so ridiculously powerfull that if we take Lobo in depowered state its gonna be his healing factor doing all the fighting.


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His healing does a lot of work most of the time, anyway. He has the best healing in comics, IMO.

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Lobo has a proven track record of being one of the DC’s best h2h fighting. This is proven thanks to doing extremely well, against a spectrum of characters with just his fist, and his good old hook chain. The same can not be said about Deadpool. Deadpools chances of are further reduced, thanks to Lobos instinctive ability to measure up his opponent, and deduct its Achilles' heel.


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LOBO's fight vs the the 2 Gl Rookies was a good showing of HIS understanding of how a ring works.


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