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Superman vs Silver Surfer (tournament style)
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carver9
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer dominates. This is one of Superman's biggest matchup nightmares ever created on his level.


I agree with this... surfer is the icing on the cake when it comes to annihilating supes. Even if surfer didn't exploit the weakness against supes I would give him a high majority. Sufer is clearly more powerful by a large gap imo.


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Originally posted by -Pr-
no.

it's not the power cosmic, though. unless it is and i'm forgetting something?

and?

Then why did you say you doubted he could hit 1,000 times lightspeed with his board? You said that you honestly didn't believe Surfer could do that with his board and then said you we talking more about the speed than the energy... confused

It's just light, something Surfer's produced from his body before.

And if they've never said that someone from another universe can't create working k-nite there's no reason to think Surfer would be unable to.


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Originally posted by h1a8
No it hasn't been. Otherwise Superman would have been dead going through a red sun.

The board can't move very fast in the beginning of Superman's time.
Superman could simply pop Surfer and combo him to ko before the board even gets to Superman.


So there's not a scene where Batman explanes to Supes that red sunlight depowers Supes differently than they thought before?

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Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this... surfer is the icing on the cake when it comes to annihilating supes. Even if surfer didn't exploit the weakness against supes I would give him a high majority. Sufer is clearly more powerful by a large gap imo.
I agree to with the more powerful thing. Surfer seems to be deadlier than before in his classic days.


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Surfer no contest.


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Then why did you say you doubted he could hit 1,000 times lightspeed with his board? You said that you honestly didn't believe Surfer could do that with his board and then said you we talking more about the speed than the energy... confused

It's just light, something Surfer's produced from his body before.

And if they've never said that someone from another universe can't create working k-nite there's no reason to think Surfer would be unable to.


because how fast he can move and how fast he can direct the board are two different things to me.

but has he charged the board with anything that isn't power cosmic?

except that he would need to know it's composition, and there's still the matter of whether johns' retcon applies to new earth superman like the rest of them.


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surfer overall.
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tha surfer. and btw, darthgoober's owned this debate lol

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Going through the thread, I'm seeing like...the exact same responses I'd see in a regular Superman vs Silver Surfer thread.

I guess everyone debates Silver Surfer in a "tournament style" regardless of the thread stipulations.


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because how fast he can move and how fast he can direct the board are two different things to me.

but has he charged the board with anything that isn't power cosmic?

except that he would need to know it's composition, and there's still the matter of whether johns' retcon applies to new earth superman like the rest of them.

Why does it matter if he can turn at those speeds if Supes can't get out of the way? Supes has to be able to dodge Surfer's top straitline speeds before Surfer manuverability even becomes an issue.

If you're asking if there's ever been a specific repeat of the feat with another form of energy, no. But he's still got more than enough to credit to support his doing what I've been suggesting...
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/...1988_016_12.jpg
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That's where Cosmic Awareness comes in. Yeah but we don't just assume things like that if they DC hasn't said that it's impossible for people from other universes to create working K-nite.


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Shit, i'd forgotten about Infinite Crisis...




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tha surfer. and btw, darthgoober's owned this debate lol


yup.


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Originally posted by illadelph12
Surfer.

Too many options.

It's not a slight to Superman that Surfer is simply equipped to beat him, btw. Superman's still the 'better' hero.
The hell he is, SS is the better chaarcter and this is an objective truth.

I'll have him win by shrinking to an atom's size then going into SM's head and expanding.

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The hell he is, SS is the better chaarcter and this is an objective truth.

I'll have him win by shrinking to an atom's size then going into SM's head and expanding.



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tha surfer. and btw, darthgoober's owned this debate lol


People are crazy to even try to debate against darth... especially regarding surfer. He is honestly one of the best debators on the forum (one dumb is right beside him).


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People are crazy to even try to debate against darth... especially regarding surfer. He is honestly one of the best debators on the forum (one dumb is right beside him).
Ahem.....cough....cough.


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As far as creating kryptonite is that even necessary? Specifically speaking superman is weak to whatever radiation is emitted by the rocks... Right?

When faced against gladiaor his cosmic awareness told him what that specific radiation wave was and he created it...

When thanos and surfer landed on a planet and the inhabitants were dying surfer creating antibodies to negate whatever it was that was killing them...

I think as long as surfer knows what the item is, he can recreate it.


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Could someone post a real FIGHTING speed feat for surfer? Cause I've only seen him being very fast while travelling on his board.


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Well, there is that feat of him taking on an armada and zipping around blasting each ship nearly simultaneously, but he was on his board flying. And there's the navagating an asteroid field going multiples of light. Surfer doesn't tend to combo to ko people so there's not a lot of scans of that, he's more of the Morgan Freeman "Shoot this muthaf*cka" type.


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Could someone post a real FIGHTING speed feat for surfer? Cause I've only seen him being very fast while travelling on his board.

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I think he means h2h or close combat.


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