In just about every instance that I can think of, Surfer has fallen victim to mental invasion. I know your going to lobby, and state that if he overcame it, then it simply wouldn’t work here, and now. But my point is, before Surfer can shake off that form of telepathic assault (not be confused with a psi blast, since it carries different properties). Surfer goes through the motions, as in his senses are distorted unable to tell reality from illusion. Proof of this is when he fell pray to the virus, or when Oclins implanted memories from Grand practitioner Tey.
If you wish to counter my argument, then you would need to pull off an instance where Surfer has halted such telepathic assault cold turkey, as oppose to being a victim of mental assault, and then fighting his way back. Otherwise burden of proof falls on your hands.
You have to understand that X-Man is the biggest telepathic monster in Top Tier Class. In more then one instance his psi powers have been compared to Phoenix.
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The point i was trying to make was that Surfer possesses very high mental defenses, proven by the many feats i've previously mentioned and not that he is totally immune to it, thought on one occasions he created a shield that supposed to stop TP intrusion but im not going to focus on that one at this time however what i am going to focus on is his high tolerance against this sort of attack, as he has demonstrated. Its going to take a lot of concentration for Nate to even get past/break that defensive wall, quite frankly a unfavorable and disadvantageous move on his part as he would be unable to multitask and be open to diff. attacks..
You mention both 2 incident - Grand practitioner Tey and the Virus - both affected Surfer perception of reality, now there are a few things that need to be addressed in those events; 1st off he allowed it to happen, 2nd his senses where never at a loss, 3rd he never loss his grasp of reality, and 4th he could sync out of it at any time... This pretty much is a poor ex. of tp feat against Surfer as his mind was in no real danger...
My proof is in Surfer tp defenses to which was given by example.. If my memory serves me correctly there where only two beings in his entire history to successfully and forcibly affect/changed Surfer via tp; Galactus and the Goddess.. I just don't think Nate is on the same league as the two i mentioned above at this moment for both control and power telepathically..
Yes i do understand that Nate is one of the biggest tier in that leaque but what you also need to understand is that Surfer has faced beings in the same class or even higher and come out on top.. Being compared is good and all but you need actual feat to actually be equal, less now were saying Surfer = MM since they been compared before..
So to sum it up - Nate needs a lot of concentration for tp assault to be of advantage however its a double edge sword as loss of concentration = unable to multitask = opening on his defenses = advantage to Surfer - ..
he realized the warp was going on adn "broke the spell", but he is not immune to reality warping. not that it matters as SNG cant really do it on a whim
An unnecessary bump, but apparently yes he has. I came across this feat when I was editing X-Man’s respect thread. In X-Man annual, he traveled back in time, into the AoA timeline (heh two feats), to warn Magneto, and Forge of Sugar Mans plans of using a bio weapon on AoA, and Earth 616.
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