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Riggs has had WAY more efficient help than McClane man. You know it, as well as I do.
No, man, Murtaugh wasn't there "holding his hand" as the Mac fangirls like to say.

In LW1: Riggs entered the room unarmed, killing 5 armed men, all on his own. Murtaugh was tied up.

In LW2: During the raid on the Alba Varden, Riggs and Murtaugh were on opposite ends of the boat. Murtaugh only came around when the S. African guy ran outta ammo.

Riggs also escaped the underwater trap and killed two men h2h, all the while having his shoulder dislocated.

In LW3: Riggs took on 4 guys in the garage all on his own. Beat them all. Lorna was no help, she was busy taking on her own group of opponents.

In LW4: Riggs took on 4-5 asian Triads in Murtaugh's home, beat their asses down. All on his own.


Just a few examples wink Examples that McClane, on his best day, can come nowhere close to replicating. Tell ya what, you tell a McClane feat that Riggs cannot replicate. Go ahead, make something up.




On the flip side, Riggs has shown that he can do the mass destruction thing just as good as Mac can. Thing is, Riggs doesn't have to because he's that much better. McClane, lacking Riggs skill, HAS to resort to such destructive methods. Anything Mac can do, Riggs can do. And better.


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Originally posted by Kaibs
Riggs has had WAY more efficient help than McClane man. You know it, as well as I do.


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No, man, Murtaugh wasn't there "holding his hand" as the Mac fangirls like to say.

In LW1: Riggs entered the room unarmed, killing 5 armed men, all on his own. Murtaugh was tied up.

In LW2: During the raid on the Alba Varden, Riggs and Murtaugh were on opposite ends of the boat. Murtaugh only came around when the S. African guy ran outta ammo.

Riggs also escaped the underwater trap and killed two men h2h, all the while having his shoulder dislocated.

In LW3: Riggs took on 4 guys in the garage all on his own. Beat them all. Lorna was no help, she was busy taking on her own group of opponents.

In LW4: Riggs took on 4-5 asian Triads in Murtaugh's home, beat their asses down. All on his own.


Just a few examples wink Examples that McClane, on his best day, can come nowhere close to replicating. Tell ya what, you tell a McClane feat that Riggs cannot replicate. Go ahead, make something up.




On the flip side, Riggs has shown that he can do the mass destruction thing just as good as Mac can. Thing is, Riggs doesn't have to because he's that much better. McClane, lacking Riggs skill, HAS to resort to such destructive methods. Anything Mac can do, Riggs can do. And better.





McClane worked ALL his fights out alone. except for when Al shot a guy and Matthew took out a goon.

This knocks your cited feats into a very, very silly looking oblivion.


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McClane worked ALL his fights out alone. except for when Al shot a guy and Matthew took out a goon.

This knocks your cited feats into a very, very silly looking oblivion.


Name a McClane feat. Go ahead, I dare you.


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Feat of what?


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Name a McClane feat that sticks out.

Blowing up the Jet, killing he chopper, etc; I'll name a Riggs feat that at the very least matches it.


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Oh right... I Getcha.

Well heres three:

Saving all but two of the hostages in the Nakatomi towers.
Solo.

Wiping out 15 pentagon trained mercs in 5 seconds.
Solo.

Defeated 4 different criminal masterminds.
Mostly solo.


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Oh right... I Getcha.
No, you don't. individual feats, not entire movie feats. The second is acceptable.


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Wiping out 15 pentagon trained mercs in 5 seconds.
Solo.
An unarmed Riggs killed 5 armed men in ten seconds with his bare hands. Much more impressive in terms of level of skill.


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Silly difference splitting. Your point is McPwned. Just admit it and move on to trolling some other respect thread.

Woulda been skill if they were all of McClane calibre.
They were all standard goon grade, which renders that quite unimpressive.
(Notice how he didn't get away with that against Busey)


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Silly difference splitting. Your point is McPwned. Just admit it and move on to trolling some other respect thread.

Woulda been skill if they were all of McClane calibre.
They were all standard goon grade, which renders that quite unimpressive.
(Notice how he didn't get away with that against Busey)



McClane caliber? You mean someone who sucks ass h2h? K.

Bullshit. Mac resorts to such destructive methods because he has to, because he lacks Riggs skill. Riggs would cleared that plane with an MP-5 and his Beretta.

So, next feat? Had enough yet?


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He doesn't suck ass.

He brawls. No chop-socky-kicky-faggotry (or rarely any, at least) from McClane....and it gets results.

Of being right? Nope that rarely gets old.


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He doesn't suck ass.

He brawls. No chop-socky-kicky-faggotry (or rarely any, at least) from McClane....and it gets results.

Of being right? Nope that rarely gets old.


Yes, he does. Fact.

He brawls and loses, has to come back with an SUV to win. Fact.

So. Next feat?


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Nope. He doesn't. Screen feats only. Or else we'll have to speculate about how much ass-to-mouth Riggs was possibly subjected to as part of his torture on LW1 in moments where they cut to what the other guys're doing. stick out tongue

He brawls, wins most then ensures the deaths of everyone after anyways.
Facty McFact: Winner of Fact of the year from 1988 til present, acknowledged by Philip Fact, The Dean at the Fact university, Factville, in the Tri-Fact-district of Factanois.

Next feat: Constant endurance of pressure waves from explosions that would break them skellingtons of regular humans.


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Nope. He doesn't.
Compared to Riggs, in terms of skill, he does.

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He brawls, wins most then ensures the deaths of everyone after anyways.
And if it goes to the ground (which most real life fights do), Riggs wins. He has a ground game, Mac doesn't.

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Fail. Fail is acknowledged by Michael McFail, CEO of WIN enterprises.

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Next feat: Constant endurance of pressure waves from explosions that would break them skellingtons of regular humans.


It took a bayonet through the thigh, half a dozen kicks to the face, and 6 .44's to the lung to put Riggs down. It took two bullets to the shoulder to put Mac down. Questions?


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Skill at what...?

He does. McClanes grappling game is vicious, less "techniquey" but effective.

Michael Fail was fired and replaced by you in during your last lines of argument, Im afraid. His kids'll go hungry this xmas because of you.
How do you feel... Xmas ruiner...? laughing out loud
Facty McFact(STILL Winner of Fact of the year from 1988 til present, acknowledged by Philip Fact, The Dean at the Fact university, Factville, in the Tri-Fact-district of Factanois) is still quite correct.
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Yeah a question: Why'd you leave all the times that Rodge saves him in that list...? stick out tongue

Riggs was WAY more f**ked up than McClane was.
(Rightly so too, given the injuries, but to make like McClane was corpsed is just silly)


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Skill at what...?

He does. McClanes grappling game is vicious, less "techniquey" but effective.
Yeah, that's why Mac is always getting his ass kicked.





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Yeah a question: Why'd you leave all the times that Rodge saves him in that list...? stick out tongue
Mac had his life saved twice. Once by Al, once by Farrell. Riggs had his life saved twice by Rog.

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Riggs was WAY more f**ked up than McClane was.
(Rightly so too, given the injuries, but to make like McClane was corpsed is just silly)
Relevant?


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Its all a part of the winning process for McClane.
Riggs, however just gets his ass kicked all up and down the street 'til Rogeywodge saves him (or the wife does).

Twice in a whole quadrilogy wow. In LW it was Riggs getting saved by every mofo in LA, especially Roger (and the wife).


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What a crock of shit!!!

Here, time to end this:



Now, before I proceed, let me just say that McClane besting a chopper with a car is impressive. He destroyed the chopper, but all that really matters is that he defeated it.

K......Riggs is in his trailer shagging Rika. The attack choppers are coming, TWO of them. He escapes the trailer even as they shoot it full of holes. Rika makes her way to his truck.

Riggs goes stealth, uses a S. African as a human shield, takes his machine gun and caps another.

Riggs disappears, emerges on top of his ruined trailer, caps two more S. Africans, then caps the pilot inside chopper number one. Chopper number two shows up, Riggs takes off, sprints to his truck.

Riggs and Rika are escaping in his truck, chopper number two in hot pursuit, pelting Riggs with automatic fire.

Riggs, pissed at this, stops the truck and unloads his Beretta on chopper number two. He caps the shooter and forces the second chopper to flee.

Murtaugh was nowhere to be found. He was at home, being attacked by two other S. Africans. "Nailed 'em both."



So.....Riggs took on TWO attack choppers. He defeated one with a machine gun. He defeated the second with a Beretta. AND he kept his vehicle intact, he got to drive away!!!! Mac? He was unable to defeat a chopper, ONE chopper, with his handgun.



See, remember when I said that Mac has to resort to such destructive methods because he lacks Riggs' skill? This is indisputable proof of this.

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Soooooooooooooooooo.......In closing........................Anything Mac can do Riggs can do better. Riggs can do anything better than Mac.


Yes he can........



YES HE CAN........




YES HE CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!


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Waiting for someone to say "ZOMG Mac took a chopper with a snub nose .38!!!"

That was one chopper, and it was the power line Mac shot. Riggs took out TWO choppers in ONE sitting, AND had no power lines to work with. TWO choppers, BOTH of them spewing forth automatic death, and Riggs defeated them both!!!!! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!


So.........As I said..........Anything Mac can do Riggs can do better. Riggs can do anything better than Mac.


Yes he can........



YES HE CAN........




YES HE CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!


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Dude. This is a thread that respects the McClane factor. If you want to make a respect Riggs thread do it. But stop polluting this thread with your talk of Riggs. Respect the thread for what it is, not what you want it to be.


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