The writer explained this and what if's are what if's. It's already been made crystal clear you are 100 percent correct. I wouldn't worry about those who argue for what if's to be considered canon anyways.
secondly, i agree with galans point of view. like he said, eveyr what if always starts off by going over canon events that have already happened in the 616, before it goes on to the actual what if/non-canon portion. thats 100% correct.
no one is arguing that the what if part itself is canon, just the first part of the story that retells canon events. disputing that is illogical imo. new information was just introduced. get over it.
wow...so basically void was all powerful and raped everybody...but ares was the most taxing thing he did the whole fight? weird...all it does is make it a huge feat for ares lol
ares is obviously more taxing then the whole world combined
including avengers ,thor, loki, doom ...
i wonder where herc was... if sentry killed him he would have probably died of exhaustion
Exactly.
Its not so much that What If offers new information, however loosely it maybe. But the retcon is total PIS. Why put so much stock in it... amirite?
Wrong, this is an alternate version of the retelling of these events and the writer has already explained these events. This is just a what if and to be ignored outside this comic.
Yea, I gotta agree with John. The beginning and end of that issue as far as I can tell are clearly cannon. I see no logical reason why they shouldn't be.
It doesn't matter if it makes no sense -even in within the comic itself- because -bad- comics are like that sometimes.
If someone wanted to provide evidence that Thor -or whatever- killed the Void, just point to Fallen Sun. This is just another comic that suggests that it wasn't Bob wanting to die that allowed Void to die.
Frankly, more issues like this are a possibility if Siege is touched on again. We had to look to an online interview (Useful on forums) to get some type of clarification. I.e. the comic will be intepreted differently from what Bendis wanted or at least intended to do.
My stance: Void was just more bark than bite, and was worn down then killed by Thor and co. I do however think that Bob wanting to die was one of the reasons he didn't ressurect. Still don't understand why his will to die would have any more of an impact now but whatever.
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This is a what if and the writer himself explained through an interview why the sentry lost. This wasn't it and is still from a what if. The on panel fighting and the comic supports bendis' own interview. This is only a what if and the rules are very clear about what if's.
The What If is still a comic book and if it says otherwise, it trumps what Bendis said online because comics > interviews. You keep saying it's a What If like that's some sort of an argument. The first few pages acknowledged what happened in the 616 and near the end we even see the Watcher from that Universe talking to the Watcher from the 616 regarding the events. The scans Galan posted are cannon. There's no logical reason why they shouldn't be. At the very least, they hold more weight than Bendis' interview on a forum.
That being said, I don't think Ares weakening Sentry makes sense but whatever.
You don't get to pick and chose what's cannon. You tried the same bullshit with the Squirrel Girl scene and are probably going to pull the same shit here.
Edit: Siege #4 doesn't go hand in hand with Bendis' interview. At least not the way people spin it.
Bendis has no claim on what's canon or not, you can call it retcon if you want to, but what happened its Sentry was never invincible as far as 616 goes.
As far as I remember my stance has always been that Void was worn down until Reynolds gained some control, but then Void soon returned, and Thor killed him. But Reynolds wanting to die contributed to him not returning (At least to a point)
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The writer explained this and what if's are what if's. It's already been made crystal clear you are 100 percent correct. I wouldn't worry about those who argue for what if's to be considered canon anyways.
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