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Lord_Talron
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then you'd be wrong. even byrne superman was lifting objects that were stated to be able to "crush metropolis with one step".

a relatively small meteor could destroy metropolis entirely. lifting something and getting something to escape earth's atmosphere are two entirely different things. having enough force/strength to force something into space is exponentially more than just lifting it

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depending on the speed they bounce off or one attracts the other into it's gravitational pull.

there's no orbit pull for either....they're way too small to exert gravity

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Probably.Bench pressing 20 tons vs. pulling 20 tons I'd go with bench pressing being easier.

At least it seems that way to me.

Well you are wrong.

Is it easier to lift a couch or pull one?

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Originally posted by Parmaniac

EDIT: In space (where you think the human can pull the elephant) the human won't pull the elephant towards himself, no he will pull himself towrd the elephant cause the elephant has more mass.

if the human had leverage, he would be able to move the elephant

superman can fly...hence his leverage

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Lord_Talron
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Probably.Bench pressing 20 tons vs. pulling 20 tons I'd go with bench pressing being easier.

At least it seems that way to me.

you're joking right? have you ever actually bench pressed before?

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Probably.Bench pressing 20 tons vs. pulling 20 tons I'd go with bench pressing being easier.

At least it seems that way to me.

lol talk to me when you have benchpressed...anything.

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you're joking right? have you ever actually bench pressed before?

That is what I was thinking.

That was a terrible answer that he gave.

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Dec 12th, 2010 09:37 PM

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if the human had leverage, he would be able to move the elephant

superman can fly...hence his leverage

So as soon as someone can fly he can push the entire universe with one finger?

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lol talk to me when you have benchpressed...anything.

Yes.

To me it all seems on how much your lifting vs. pulling.

Its like destroying vs. lifting.

A regular human has a better chance of lifting a chair then he does destroying it.But he has a better chance of destroying a mountain then lifting that.

Neither would be easy but IMO to me it all would depend on how much you are lifting vs. how much you are pulling.

Lifting 200 lb would be harder then pulling it.But puling a car with no wheels would be harder then lifting it. Just IMO.

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Yes.

To me it all seems on how much your lifting vs. pulling.

Its like destroying vs. lifting.

A regular human has a better chance of lifting a chair then he does destroying it.But he has a better chance of destroying a mountain then lifting that.

Neither would be easy but IMO to me it all would depend on how much you are lifting vs. how much you are pulling.

Lifting 200 lb would be harder then pulling it.But puling a car with no wheels would be harder then lifting it. Just IMO.

Everything you said was just plain out WRONG.

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Pulling a car with no wheels would still be easier than benchpressing it.

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@bbz, wtf are you babbling about?

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Lord_Talron
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Yes.

To me it all seems on how much your lifting vs. pulling.

Its like destroying vs. lifting.

A regular human has a better chance of lifting a chair then he does destroying it.But he has a better chance of destroying a mountain then lifting that.

Neither would be easy but IMO to me it all would depend on how much you are lifting vs. how much you are pulling.

Lifting 200 lb would be harder then pulling it.But puling a car with no wheels would be harder then lifting it. Just IMO.

WHAT. you're telling me that to lift an ENTIRE CAR would be easier than pulling it. what the F*CK are you on?

about pulling stuff in space, the answer im sure, is much more complicated than either sides are making it. in space there is no friction and theres a sense of weightlessness, yet you cant pull a spaceship towards you.

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So as soon as someone can fly he can push the entire universe with one finger?

a human could lift an elephant on the moon

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So as soon as someone can fly he can push the entire universe with one finger?

That's not what we are saying but he sure as hell can move more weight in space with his flight versus doing it on earth and we both know why.

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So as soon as someone can fly he can push the entire universe with one finger?

only if you are superman. he's dynamic

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Superman.

And him lifting infinite weight - which he did, as there's no proof within the story context or actual direct statement to say otherwise - quite the contrary - is valid, no matter how much sadness it provokes to the haters. In fact, that whole story was about Superman being the ultimate hero and doing impossible things, such as, at the end of the story, being capable of containing the bleed when nobody except the Monitors, who are writer analogues, should be able to.

"They were wrong. Superman can."

As for the thread, Superman, definitley.

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Superman.

And him lifting infinite weight - which he did, as there's no proof within the story context or actual direct statement to say otherwise - quite the contrary - is valid, no matter how much sadness it provokes to the haters. In fact, that whole story was about Superman being the ultimate hero and doing impossible things, such as, at the end of the story, being capable of containing the bleed when nobody except the Monitors, who are writer analogues, should be able to.

"They were wrong. Superman can."

As for the thread, Superman, definitley.

False. He needed aid and the feat is something ultraman did by himself.

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