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LLLLLink
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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That meteor was big enough to destroy the world, 5L. MewTwo has no feat even close enough to draw something that big to earth through the vastness of space. He couldn't even pick up a rock off of the moon. Arceus has enough power to do that and more across dimension barriers.


Planet-wide storm begs to differ. Arceus gets owned by things that are supposedly a fraction of a percent of his power. The fact is, he is overrated. Besides, Mewtwo is faster than Arceus.


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MooCowofJustice
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Yeah. Difference is when I say destroy the world, I mean actually destroy. Whatever is not within the collision area could still be violently eradicated. I didn't mean eradicate all life like that hurricane. But the meteor would do that as a side effect.

Sure, a planet wide hurricane is impressive. But frankly I've been doubting that it was planet wide for a long time.

No, he is not. ExtremeSpeed. Right now, you're overrating MewTwo way worse than Arceus.


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This is the one that needs to be closed.


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Originally posted by LLLLLink
Planet-wide storm begs to differ. Arceus gets owned by things that are supposedly a fraction of a percent of his power. The fact is, he is overrated. Besides, Mewtwo is faster than Arceus.


Planet wide storm destroying the earth is different from a meteor. The meteor can do it far faster.

Is that based purely on stats?

Will point out something: Stars. Arceus made them. Stars have more energy than Mewtwo.

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Prove that Arceus made the stars. So far all I've heard is "according to the legends" and "It is described in mythology". I mean if we paid attention to all of that than Zeus should have his fat ass sitting on a throne in Olympus.

Mewtwo on the other hand had his "battle abilities" "raised to the ultimate level"

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Well huh, we can see Arceus which means he is clearly not a myth. And technically in real life, there is a Christian religion to why the other gods aren't around. But, whatever.

Neat. In game he is completely weaker than Arceus and he can end it with one Judgement. Yay.


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Prove that Arceus made the stars. So far all I've heard is "according to the legends" and "It is described in mythology". I mean if we paid attention to all of that than Zeus should have his fat ass sitting on a throne in Olympus.

Mewtwo on the other hand had his "battle abilities" "raised to the ultimate level"


Every legendary Pokemon now is supposedly a myth, and we see all of them do exactly what they did in mythology. For example, we actually saw the fight between Groudon and Kyogre in the anime, and watched Groudon raise pieces of land and Kyogre raise the seas. It happened in their games too.

I'd be more interested in trying to find you a game where mythology doesn't turn out to have actually happened.


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But someone with an Arceus avatar said in one of the other threads not to use the anime. So I'm just accepting his wishes. wink

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I don't really care what the other guy said.

Until you can prove the myths are wrong, I will continue to accept them as canon. As is per custom for this forum.


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lol. That is not the custom on this forum. Regarless its hard to shape the universe with a thousand arms, if you dont have a thousand arms or in Arceus's case any arms at all...

And if we say anime is canon that meteor > Arceus.

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lol. That is not the custom on this forum. Regarless its hard to shape the universe with a thousand arms, if you dont have a thousand arms or in Arceus's case any arms at all...

And if we say anime is canon that meteor > Arceus.


Says who? :O


Cause God can't decide what it wants to look like.

Arceus> Mewtwo according to all canon so I honestly don't care. stick out tongue

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LOL @ this argument.

The fact it reached 9 pages of nonsensical gibberish makes it moar LOLzy.


Arceus is the Pokegod.
Until Mr. Tajiri and co. comes up with a stronger Pokemans, he IS currently the strongest Pokemans in existence.

By comparo, Mewtwo is a man-made clone of Mew, which is >= Mewtwo.
Even a Celebi has displayed much better feats than Mewtwo.


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Cause God can't decide what it wants to look like.

Your giving Arceus powers he never has shown. And many mythological Gods can't change their form such as Thor.

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MooCowofJustice
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You talkin' about Marvel Thor or actual Thor? 'cause I know a Norse mythology dude, and he can verify that.


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Originally posted by ares834
Your giving Arceus powers he never has shown. And many mythological Gods can't change their form such as Thor.


Fine.

In game, neither have feats. Arceus has better stats and can change type to something suitable. He wins.

In anime, Arceus destroyed something that could literally wipe out the earth. Mewtwo has never demonstrated that amount of power.

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

In anime, Arceus destroyed something that could literally wipe out the earth. Mewtwo has never demonstrated that amount of power.

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if we are talking game logic mewtwo becuase mewtwo has higher speed and sp attack. it would most likely one shot arceus with psychic. if arceus were holding a plate like ghost or dark mewtwo could use focus blast altough it might miss. mewtwo can learn alot of moves so in most situations mewtwo would beat arceus. if we are talking non game logic i don't know. mewtwo and mew are the only pokemon not created by arceus. mew gave birth to arceus and mewtwo is a clone of mew so arceus's god powers might not work on mewtwo. assuming they both CAN die mewtwo is naturally more agile due to it's small size and and it's psychic blasts are very powerful. arceus is big and most likely not too fast so with enough wearing down i think mewtwo has a shot.

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