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Hogwarts is destroyed!


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It doesn't matter where they're from, all that matters is that the battle will be foreseen by a Divination wizard long before the battle happens. The fact that the combatants are from different dimensions means nothing.

Big green Hulk smashing through the forbidden forest. Think about it. He'll be detected.


Thanks for playing.

Show proof of the prophetic visions working on threats from another dimension or reality.


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Show proof of the prophetic visions working on threats from another dimension or reality.
You aren't getting it. The prophesies will warn of the epic battle. The battle takes place in HPverse, why wouldn't it? If the battle took place in Hancockverse or Superverse, you'd be right.


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I just love that RJ is using prep even when prep wasnt allowed in the first place. The prophesies warnings before the fight = prep.


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Ninja... is this movie versions or comic? Movie right?

"Superman from the DC Universe and Hulk and Abomination from the Marvel Universe" This indicates from DC and Marvel comics IMO. DC and Marvel movies are a different universes and not the same as the comics.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
This is one of the stupidest things you've ever posted. By that logic, my body stays togther when I walk, therefore Superman would be unable to splatter me across the pavement. Becuase y'know, if something stays together then it cannot be parted, ever.

Smoke, being far less dense, and, well, just a bunch of particles flying in unison, completely un-attatched to each other, can logically be parted with far less difficulty, like say, one of Superman's sneezes.
You just said it. "Completely unattached to each other."

Tell me....What keeps the wizards clouds of smoke all together when they are flying? Or flying through the heads of other wizards?



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Yes, yes he can.
No, he can't. Try to catch smoke with your bare hands. Try to freeze smoke. Nothing happens.



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He doesn't have to blow them away to kill them btw (not that that wouldn't work, because it would). Flying through them at lightspeed should do the trick.
Clouds of smoke, dude. If he flies through them, they are unharmed.

Plus there are at least 30 if them, all invisible.



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No it doesn't retard. Hall of Prophecies is something they actually have to go to befor the attack to gather information about said attack. It's Prep, which the wizards do not get in this thread.
The hall of prophesies will warn them of the attack years before, even decades.

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The fight starts with, as per the OP 'They are there. Supes and Hancock in the sky Hulk and Abomination just outside the grounds.'

Supes will kill every wizard in the place before Hulk even takes a single step.
Nope. Invisible clouds of smoke, dude. Accept it.



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Do you? How will the wizards even know they have to check the hall of prophecies?
How did they know about the prophecy from OOTP?


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How can you possibly know that there even is a prophecy about the attack ther? No wait, better question, how can you prove that there is?
Let's see, possibly the biggest event in wizard history....Yeah, it'll be prophesied.


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Becuase you can't. Because teh hall of prophecies has NOTHING to do with this thread.
Just did. Next?




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Are you ****ing serious? Like, seriously, do you know, ANYTHING, about HP? Trelawney is the. Single. ****ing. Worst. Prophet. EVER! She's made two real prophecies. Two. The school has been attacked about seven goddamn times, and she didn't predict jack shit about any of those ****ing times. She is really, really not an issue.
She predicted the OOTP prophecy just fine.

Movies only, babe.

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Plus predicting the attack would require prep, which the wizards do not have. no expression
I see, another wizard gimp? That's three thus far.

No. The hall of prophesies warns them. You wanna take that away? Fine, I'm taking away flight capabilities for the heroes.



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They're already dead. They cannot react to lightspeed, nor can they possibly hope to hit Superman even if they do. It would be like pointing a snail at a bullet thats just been fired from a gun and telling him to intercept it. No. Fricking. Way.
Nah, they're prepared for the attack as it happens. The death eaters are invisible clouds of smoke.

Seems that you want the wizards to be sitting on their hands just waiting to be killed, do you hate them that much? Why not have them ready as the attack happens? THAT'S a true test of skill. This shit about the wizards with their heads up their asses? Lame, and an uber gimp. A failed attempt at a spite thread which DDM and I have exploited and turned it back on the HP haters. ie, you.



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No it doesn't. No prep
Hall of prophesies. See what I did there? I played repeater with you.

Show me YOUR license and registration.



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No she won't. She couldn't predict her way out of a paper bag. And again, No. Prep.
Hall of prophesies.

Show me YOUR license and registration.


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He starts at the edge of the grounds and the fight is over before they detect him. Also, detect him with what? ****ing trip-wires? Seriously, do you think tehy all have super-hearing or something? They won't detech anything till he smashes through their wall.
And how did Hulk get there? Teleport? He'll be trampling through the forbidden forest making a racket. A deaf person would hear him.

Again, here's what I see: The heroes can somehow see Hogwarts. The heroes can get past the shield. The wizards have no knowledge of the attack. It all points towards spite. And now that DDM and I have turned it back on you, you don't like it.


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Again, with what? How can they see human-shaped objects at teh edge of the grounds at NOON.
Let's see....Hancock makes a shitload of noise as he flies.



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They get no prep you goddamn illiterate chimpanzee.
Aw, lookit you!!! Big boy pants and all!!!

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They have no time to prepare. They have no time to detect. They have no time to cast any spell, check any prophecies, predict any attack, they have no time to do ANYTHING.
Failed spite attempt. It's been countered and raped. Accept it.

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I cannot believe that after 10 ****ing pages you havn't grasped this concept yet. Jesus ****ing christ......
You're going to hell.


Why so angry? Look at what you're losing it over, a vs thread between two fictional parties. Take a breath, calm down, have fun with it. Don't be such a PMSing *****.


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Its a very valid question. The Death Eaters coldn't catch Harry on the flying motorbike, nor any of his clones. What makes you think they'll do jack shit to Superman flying around at lightspeed?
Confundus, Immobulus. Simple. Simple and non debatable.



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They can't do any of that. Not before they die.
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA NO YOU!!!!


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Ninja... is this movie versions or comic? Movie right?

"Superman from the DC Universe and Hulk and Abomination from the Marvel Universe" This indicates from DC and Marvel comics IMO. DC and Marvel movies are a different universes and not the same as the comics.
Movies only, MVF rules.


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You just said it. "Completely unattached to each other."

Tell me....What keeps the wizards clouds of smoke all together when they are flying? Or flying through the heads of other wizards?


Who cares. Prove it can stop Superman from seperating the smoke like me waving away kettle steam.

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No, he can't. Try to catch smoke with your bare hands. Try to freeze smoke. Nothing happens.


Yet when I wave my arms in smoke it gets blown apart. Prove the half-apparated wizards can survive gets completely shredded in smoke form.

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Clouds of smoke, dude. If he flies through them, they are unharmed.

Plus there are at least 30 if them, all invisible.


No, they get completely blown apart. Do you know what happens to smoke? It gets ****ed up and absorbed by the wind. Do you really think Superman will have trouble dissapating them?

Lightspeed. He can be in 30 places at once easily.

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The hall of prophesies will warn them of the attack years before, even decades.


NO! PREP!

HOW ****ING HARD IS IT TO UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT YOU UNBELIEVABLE RETARD?!

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Nope. Invisible clouds of smoke, dude. Accept it.


You yourself accepted that superman would have no trouble locating them with super-hearing.

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How did they know about the prophecy from OOTP?


Snape heard it. Remember?

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Let's see, possibly the biggest event in wizard history....Yeah, it'll be prophesied.


Prove it. Screen-feats only please.

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Just did. Next?


No you speculated that it might be there. You have proved nothing.

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She predicted the OOTP prophecy just fine.

Movies only, babe.


Philosophers stone: She predicted jack.

Chamber of Secrets: She predicted nothing.

Prisoner of Azkaban: She predicted wormtail, she did not predict teh Dementor attack however.

Goblet of Fire: She predicted jack.

Order of the Pheonix: Again, jack shit on the prediction front.

Half-Blood Prince: Jack mother****ing shit.

Deathly Hallows: For teh last time, no prediction.

Her ability to predict events is terrible and patchy as ****. There is nothing to suggest that she can predict the battle. You yourself practically laughs at the idea of Jedi precog because it sometimes fails. Trelawny's precog is infinately worse than a Jedi's and cannot be controlled in any shape or form. It is a complete non-factor in this fight.

And again: NO. BLOODY. PREP.

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I see, another wizard gimp? That's three thus far.


No. The hall of prophesies warns them. You wanna take that away? Fine, I'm taking away flight capabilities for the heroes.


OH MY GOD! YOU ARE NOT THE OP. YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY HERE. THE OP SAID NO PREP. SO THE WIZARDS, WAIT FOR IT, GET NO ****ING PREP! HOW THE **** IS THAT GIMPING?

NOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNO
PREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPR
EPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREP
NOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNO
PREPNOPREPNOPREP!

How ****ing hard it that to understand?! Seriously, what the **** is wrong with you?!

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Nah, they're prepared for the attack as it happens. The death eaters are invisible clouds of smoke.


No they aren't. They get no time to prepare for attack. If you want to make your own thread and give them prep, fine by me! But in this thread: No Prep!

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And how did Hulk get there? Teleport?


YES! By the Watcher! As per the OP! Seriously, are you actually retarded?!

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The ****ing OP
The Watcher....a powerful being that can create alternate realities summons Superman from the DC Universe and Hulk and Abomination from the Marvel Universe, plus Hancock from his and tells them of a school full of Wizards that must be eradicated unless the universe falls apart!

Voldemort's Death Eaters will aid Dumbledore in this epic Siege differences aside in the name of survival.

Who wins. Battle takes place at Hogwarts. Noon. After Goblet of Fire. Bloodlusted battle.


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He'll be trampling through the forbidden forest making a racket. A deaf person would hear him.


The forbidden forest is about half a mile away from the castle. How exactly will they hear him again?

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Let's see....Hancock makes a shitload of noise as he flies.


Not enough to carry half a fricking mile, twit.

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Failed spite attempt. It's been countered and raped. Accept it.


Take it up with the OP. And as Impediment would put it, would you like some cheese with that whine?

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Why so angry? Look at what you're losing it over, a vs thread between two fictional parties. Take a breath, calm down, have fun with it. Don't be such a PMSing *****.


No, I'm getting angry at the sheer idiocy that spews forth from your fingertips with ever key you press. You are honestly the absolute stupidest person I've ever met.

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Confundus, Immobulus. Simple. Simple and non debatable.


AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA NO YOU!!!!


Lightspeed. Do you even know how fast that is? The wizards CANNOT react to the sheer, horrifying speed Superman has at his disposal. Never in a million years will they be able to even process teh thought to cast a spell before he tears off their heads and throws the entire ****ing castle into teh sun. This is non debatable.


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Matt, can you please make it clear that there is NO PREP AKA No warnings from the prophesies etc...

What the **** is wrong with RJ? AC is not even this bad, he just had other issues.


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Invisible flying wizards that the heroes cannot harm. Think about it. Wizards that will be ready when the attack happens.

What part don't you understand?
They have to materialize eventually and then they die. You saw the movies right I mean why even materialize if you can solo while attacking like this ?

You haven't proven they can even harm either Hancock or Superman.

You have to prove your case not sho wme something that can kill a regular person and act like oh yeah it works against Superman or hancock.

This shouldn't be difficult to grasp.


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You aren't getting it. The prophesies will warn of the epic battle. The battle takes place in HPverse, why wouldn't it? If the battle took place in Hancockverse or Superverse, you'd be right.
So what even if they do I mean how did this help either the Ministry or voldemort's side in the movies ? LOL. This makes zero sense.


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Matt, can you please make it clear that there is NO PREP AKA No warnings from the prophesies etc...

What the **** is wrong with RJ? AC is not even this bad, he just had other issues.
RJ is secretly one of Voldy's Horcruxes.


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Originally posted by The Nuul
Ninja... is this movie versions or comic? Movie right?

"Superman from the DC Universe and Hulk and Abomination from the Marvel Universe" This indicates from DC and Marvel comics IMO. DC and Marvel movies are a different universes and not the same as the comics.

That is correct movie versions and feats only.


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Superman has also shown feats of entering the earth.
Heat vision burning them from underneath.
With Hulk underneath the battleground Thunderclapping wizards into hundreds of feat into the sky Protego won't help as there bodies crash to the ground.
Those who can fly and turn into mist like the Deatheaters would survive this but heat vision would incinerate them.
Those on brooms get their heads popped.
Superman and Hancock can process information and perform deeds while in high speed flight.
They're more than bullet-timers....they watch the wizards cast there spells and zip behind them.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
Who cares. Prove it can stop Superman from seperating the smoke like me waving away kettle steam.



OK so you're driving down a road near a forest fire. Up ahead are thick clouds of smoke, so thick you can't see an inch ahead of you. You drive through the smoke and out the other side. What hapens to the smoke? It separates as you drive through it, then reforms as you emerge out the other side.


That's the dumbed down version.



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Yet when I wave my arms in smoke it gets blown apart. Prove the half-apparated wizards can survive gets completely shredded in smoke form.
And when you stop waving your arms in it, it forms back whole.



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No, they get completely blown apart. Do you know what happens to smoke? It gets ****ed up and absorbed by the wind. Do you really think Superman will have trouble dissapating them?
The scene where Supes did his cold ice breath thingy, was he stationary or flying at light speed?

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Lightspeed. He can be in 30 places at once easily.
Apparition. Anywhere. Anytime. Instantly.

Also, educate yourself: http://scienceray.com/physics/how-f...n-superman-fly/



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NO! PREP!

HOW ****ING HARD IS IT TO UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT YOU UNBELIEVABLE RETARD?!
The hall f prophesies is a wizard power. You're not taking it away.



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You yourself accepted that superman would have no trouble locating them with super-hearing.
He's gotta wait for the sound waves to arrive. Sound travels at 1125 feet per second (fps.) If a wizard is ten thousand feet away, it'll take about 9 seconds for the sound waves to reach him. More than enough time to apparate, INSTANTLY, behind him, and death spell.


Man I love science.



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Snape heard it. Remember?
And there was the scene where Trelawney predicted it.



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Prove it. Screen-feats only please.
The biggest event in the HP films was surely what the prophecy was about. This is bigger. Get it?



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No you speculated that it might be there. You have proved nothing.
Just did.



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Philosophers stone: She predicted jack.

Chamber of Secrets: She predicted nothing.

Prisoner of Azkaban: She predicted wormtail, she did not predict teh Dementor attack however.

Goblet of Fire: She predicted jack.

Order of the Pheonix: Again, jack shit on the prediction front.

Half-Blood Prince: Jack mother****ing shit.

Deathly Hallows: For teh last time, no prediction.

Her ability to predict events is terrible and patchy as ****. There is nothing to suggest that she can predict the battle. You yourself practically laughs at the idea of Jedi precog because it sometimes fails. Trelawny's precog is infinately worse than a Jedi's and cannot be controlled in any shape or form. It is a complete non-factor in this fight.
Er, she didn't actually appear until the third book.

In OOTP she falls into a prophetic trance and tells Harry of the prophecy,

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And again: NO. BLOODY. PREP.
Hey, I have a idea...Let's take away the spell that hides Hogwarts. Let's take away the shield charm that protects Hogwarts. Let's have the wizards unaware, inside, sleeping!!!!!


Yeah, that's fair!!!!!!!!

Read the OP, genius. The hall of prophesies is not discounted.



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OH MY GOD! YOU ARE NOT THE OP. YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY HERE. THE OP SAID NO PREP. SO THE WIZARDS, WAIT FOR IT, GET NO ****ING PREP! HOW THE **** IS THAT GIMPING?

NOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNO
PREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPR
EPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREP
NOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNOPREPNO
PREPNOPREPNOPREP!

How ****ing hard it that to understand?! Seriously, what the **** is wrong with you?!



No they aren't. They get no time to prepare for attack. If you want to make your own thread and give them prep, fine by me! But in this thread: No Prep!
Hey, I have a idea...Let's take away the spell that hides Hogwarts. Let's take away the shield charm that protects Hogwarts. Let's have the wizards unaware, inside, sleeping!!!!!


Yeah, that's fair!!!!!!!!

Read the OP, genius. The hall of prophesies is not discounted.



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YES! By the Watcher! As per the OP! Seriously, are you actually retarded?!
And they never make it past the shield charm.





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The forbidden forest is about half a mile away from the castle. How exactly will they hear him again?
With their ears, doofus.



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Not enough to carry half a fricking mile, twit.
The animals running from the forest will be a dead giveaway.



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Take it up with the OP. And as Impediment would put it, would you like some cheese with that whine?
Why would I whine about committing rape on you?



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No, I'm getting angry at the sheer idiocy that spews forth from your fingertips with ever key you press. You are honestly the absolute stupidest person I've ever met.
It's stupid to get angry over some internet bullshit. You call me stupid, yet I have a perfect counter for any and every argument you throw at me.


K. I guess you have a short penis.



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Lightspeed. Do you even know how fast that is? The wizards CANNOT react to the sheer, horrifying speed Superman has at his disposal. Never in a million years will they be able to even process teh thought to cast a spell before he tears off their heads and throws the entire ****ing castle into teh sun. This is non debatable.


He won't see the invisible flying wizards. He won't see or hear Hermione, who is safely tucked under Harry's cloak after being apparated to safety thousands of feet away. Sooner or later Supes will slow down, she will confundus him, he's done.


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So what even if they do I mean how did this help either the Ministry or voldemort's side in the movies ? LOL. This makes zero sense.
It will warn them of an upcoming epic battle.


See, this thread was started out of HP spite. The thread starter and the heroes crowd want the following:

The spell that hides Hogwarts taken away.

The shield charm that protects Hogwarts taken away.

Felix felicis taken away.

For the wizards to be unaware until the attack begins. And even thne, they'll have to ID the perps and form an offensive.

That's 4 big ass gimps.

Wait, they want to discredit the hall of prophesies. That's FIVE gimps. A versus battle should always have each side aware of the other, aware of the attack, with as few handicaps as possible.





If all these things are taken away, then I am gonna take away Supes and Hancock's ability to fly.


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Let's get real, people. All a wizard has to do is conjure a Horse patronus:

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and Superman will be like this:


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I don't get how a person can be that delusional and have such a hard on Harry Potter.

You appereantly seem to cut out PIS/CIS and go by "they will immediatly do this and that"

So going by that: Supes will dash into them faster than a bullet ripps their heads off and fries them with heat vision as soon as the battle starts.

They throw spells at him before? Proof that they can react to suich speeds.


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I don't get how a person can be that delusional and have such a hard on Harry Potter.

You appereantly seem to cut out PIS/CIS and go by "they will immediatly do this and that"

So going by that: Supes will dash into them faster than a bullet ripps their heads off and fries them with heat vision as soon as the battle starts.

They throw spells at him before? Proof that they can react to suich speeds.
Did you just call me Harry Potter?


So the wizards are just sitting on their hands, waiting to be slaughtered?

No.

Either they are aware to make the thread fair, or the hall of prophesies warns them. Also, other members have decided to take it upon themselves to take away the following from the wizards: The ability to conceal the castle. The shield charm that surrounds the castle. Felix felicis. If that's the case, hell, I'm taking away the heroes ability to fly.


See how that works?


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So the wizards are just sitting on their hands, waiting to be slaughtered?
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So going by that: Supes will dash into them faster than a bullet ripps their heads off and fries them with heat vision as soon as the battle starts.

They throw spells at him before? Proof that they can react to suich speeds.


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