My characters are: Madison Jeffries (Box), Nero, and Persuader. My prep station will be the Narada, which is Nero's space ship.[/center]
Prep:
Madison and Team + Narada = 10 minutes
Madison will immediately become one with the Narada, merging himself with the advanced space ship. He will take all the capabilities of the Narada - which is self repairing, can modify its systems to handle perceived threats, and communicates mentally with Nero – onto himself. He will then absorb both Persuader (and his axe) and Nero into the ship. He has done this before when he absorbed Forge into his Box armor. They have now all literally become the ship.
Now, being that Madison is Marvel Earth’s single greatest technopath, has dealt with all kinds of technology, and the fact that the Narada is able to adapt itself Madison begins to prepare it for any and all threats. This includes electromagnetic manipulation, as Madison gives the ship all the powers of the Guardian suit – which he himself re-created with the original Box for Heather.
Persuader’s axe will be used as the basis to cover the exterior of the ship. Thanks to the Narada’s nano-technology -which can repurpose itself - and Madison’s instant tech manipulation, we can cover the ship in mere minutes (that is me being generous). Think of the skin of a shark with their jagged, rough, barbed like exterior just on a larger scale. The outside of the ship will be similar with large “teeth” all imbued with the axe’s ability to cut through any type of energy that the user wants it to cut – including but not limited to magnetism, gravity, and even into other dimensions. The teeth are then mechanized as rotating saw blades. This means no energy wielding foe's will be able to manipulate or control us as anything sent our way will effectively be shredded.
Narada: Description of new weapons system "Behold the most advanced weapons system in the galaxy. We retrofitted Borg technology and applied it to Romulan designs. It will give your ship superior warp, cloaking and sensor capabilities beyond the wildest dreams of the federation.
And it learns. Self-repairing nanotechnology not only fixes any problem, it anticipates potential threats and modifies systems accordingly, literally growing the ship to adapt." http://img4.imageshack.us/f/naradasnewweaponsystem.jpg/
Box Jeffries absorbs an entire complex into his armor. He himself can merge with any metal/plastic/glass/computer. This complex is several acres long and has extreme depths. This took no more than a minute to do
Persuader’s Axe - mentally controlled by the user to cut whatever he wants to cut. In this case, Madison as the ship "You cut the gravity below me!" http://img24.imageshack.us/i/persuader01cut.jpg/
Not only is the exterior part of the ship mixed with the Persuader’s axe, but so are all our missiles (save three). They are programmed to chew through energy shields/forms. The effectiveness of the Narada’s armory and shields can be seen in their bout with the 47 seven Klingon ships below.
The Jellyfish, containing the Red Matter, is jettisoned from the Narada. Three explosive mining devices are teleported on-board and set on a short cycle – to be detonated at the same time the Narada hits it with the missiles. The Narada detonates it at a safe distanec, and all the Red Matter onboard, with the three non-coated missiles plus the teleported mining devices. Persuader’s axe’s power is used to cut us from the gravitational pull and we will move below the singularity - as close as possible to it as we can without being in its direct path.
At the last minute of prep, a very small portion of the ship, carrying Persuader's essence, is restructured to look like the Jellyfish and cut off from the main ship. With the barbs being mentally controlled by Persuader, it will not be taken in by the black hole nor can it be manipulated by Magneto. Its main purpose is to act as an uncloaked visible decoy. He will keep it far away from the Narada.
They then activate the Narada's advanced cloaking technology and raise their personal force field - further enhanced by the Guardian's suits powers.
The match starts with the massive black hole already generated on the Himalayas. Nothing and no one will be able to escape the pull created by the singularity – save us. Due to the size of the Black Hole, even cloaked characters will be found due to their efforts to get out of the singularities pull. If it can pull up a damn PLANET (Vulcan) and Super Nova then it will sure enough take them up too.
Not even Light(ray) or Magneto can escape once they have been caught by the pull of a black hole. Especially not if I teleport them inside of it. As soon as the match starts I immediately do three things in successive order:
Immediately teleport any unshielded member into the black hole.
Use the decoy ship to draw attention from any shielded opponents. If they fire on it –which would be ineffectual due to the mechanized barbed exterior material – we can determine their location [which would lead us to the 3rd step]. If they do not fire on it, then the black hole’s pull will still give us their location and Persuader will ram them.
Fire off all my weaponry at any shielded members of the team. I’ll allow some to breach the shields – due to the Persuaders axe’s power – and loosen them up. After the initial barrage I’ll track a set of weapons and - due to the shields being continually breached by the incoming missiles - teleport both weapons and opposing team members into the black hole as well.
Summary
Team merges with Narada
Exterior of ship and missiles made with axe material
Detonate Red Matter and we cut ourselves off from the pull of gravity by using Persuader's axe.
Create a decoy ship
We use our cloaking capability to turn invisible and raise our force fields
The opposing team dies by being sucked in the black hole, teleported into black hole, hit with weaponry, hit with weaponry and THEN teleported, or they just raise a white flag of surrender.
So, I typed this up before and my internet closed. It was awesome (just kidding..!) So here goes round two. Sidenote: my prof is currently lecturing on fascism, and I'm curious to see if it affects my style and semantics... ha.
Anyways:
Judges, Blair is fielding a team that is remarkably poorly equipped to deal with my own, and that's what I'm going to show and detail to you in this post. He's constructed a team which derives almost all of it's power from a set of metal devices- Persuader's atomic axe, Box's suit and Nero's ship- against Magneto.
He has an overall grand plan, but his achilles' heel is giant, his team is slow, and so even if his plans could work (an unlikelihood that we'll sort through later), it doesn't really matter as they'd never come to fruition.
We can see two clear defenses that Blair hopes to raise to such an obvious threat as Magneto, so I'll spend this post deconstructing those defenses, making it clear that they don't really hold up.
First Defense: Madison will attempt to become Guardian
So, we know that this is ridiculous.
Yes, Guardian has an power set capable of manipulating energy, but there are two huge issues:
1) Blair doesn't have the suit, nor any proven ability to recreate it
2) Madison is no Guardian, who in turn is no Magneto
The argument is that because Madison at one point helped construct a suit capable of emulating Guardian's powers, that he can manipulate energy through technology with enough skill to repel the energy manipulating attempts of Magneto.
Jeffries had the aid of Roger Bochs (his predecessor) to make the suit, and it took the two of them quite some time to construct a prototype that Heather would test.
Madison's never (to my knowledge) constructed one from thin air since then, nor demonstrated the capacity to do so, ever.
Furthermore, if he was capable of simply waving his hand and gaining the power set of another low herald, not only would his place in this tourney be suspect (as well as Guardian's place on Alpha Flight...), so would this scan:
In which he needs to phase Forge in to have master control of his suit because, upon entering an area which Guardian is passively defending, he knows that he would be hooped due to the nature of his powers and his inability to defend himself against Guardian's.
This scan is from 59 issues later than the scan in which he's making the suit, so, according to Blair, Box should have had little issue simply recreating Guardian's powers and using them against him.
Maybe the issue was that he would simply be no good with Guardian's powers, or, at least, lack the capacity to adequately match Guardian's prowess?
Well, that still holds here, only now the notion is even more ridiculous, as Magneto is inarguably more adept with his powers than Guardian, and Madison has never demonstrated any ability with such a power set whatsoever. Maybe his teammates will help? Nero's never dealt with super powers, and Persuader swings an axe around. Sounds like a whole pool of EM-manipulating expertise to me.
We probably don't need proof that Magneto surpasses all other manipulators of electromagnetic energy, but we have it, it looks pretty, etc, so here goes that:
Note that Magneto is dying and vastly depowered here, and he still manages to actually change the energy matrix of a very powerful reality manipulator (Proteus), and defeat him with relative ease.
In conclusion:
Blair's attempt to replicate Guardian's powers was a wonderful waste of time.
Defense Two: Persuader's axe
Persuader's axe can cut through energy. Fair enough.
There are three reasons why that means dick all in this context though:
1) It's only ever cut direct lines of force affecting an external object
2) Its runs off of nuclear emissions,
3) There's no evidence that Madison can actually "imbue" himself or the ship with the axe's "nuclear emissions"
For the first point:
Let's take a look at the two instances that being used to back up the notion that it can be used to counter Magneto's abilities:
One consists of him cutting the planet's gravitational pull on a policeman, and the other is him cutting the magnetic force repelling a piece of metal.
Tell me, are either of these suitable analogies for Magneto manipulating someone's energy matrix? What about Magneto affecting the magnetic poles of the earth?
Is there any evidence that we couldn't simply magnetically effect the axe itself (or Blair's 'shark scales', if he were actually capable of making them)? No scans show any reason that the axe couldn't be affected with energy- telekinetically lifted, magnetically bent, that sort of thing. After all, if we affect it with energy, it can't be swung (or, rotated), can't cut our energy.
What if energy transmuted it? What if we effected the axe wielder or began to explore the thousands of esoteric ways that energy manipulation is used throughout comics beyond simply magnetically throwing some shrapnel?
The point is that the axe's use that we've seen is so startlingly limited that to assert that it would have any role in repelling Magneto, one of the most robust energy manipulator's this side of high herald is a completely hollow argument.
But even if it could affect our powers? We'd just shut it down, that's point two:
Nice scans, but they don't prove anything- if anything, they provide a case that this is ridiculous.
Madison in those scans absorbs a whole base into his suit. But he just takes the metal, plastic, etc. He doesn't keep the technology, just breaks it down and digests it to give himself a new, bigger suit.
He's not 'merging' himself with the base so much as he's assimilating it.
In this case, that results in a total loss of the only things make Nero and Persuader remotely useful.
Alternatively, if he didn't absorb the axe, he'll have to try to use it against Magneto which (beyond the reasons already mentioned) is silly as we're completely undetectable and much faster.
Any argument that he can replicate the technology to cover the entirety of Nero's ship would need proof that he (Madison) can actually recreate the tech... that would be nice to see, but none of the scans provided for Box so far show us this.
For that matter, though I'll get into this later, we would need similar proof if he's to make any use of Nero's ship, including its weapons systems.
Madison becoming Guardian makes no sense. He's never recreated the suit quickly or on his own, he's needed outside help to deal with Magneto's power set being used against him in the past, and he has no capability to actually utilize Guardian's power set with any prowess.
Persuader's axe is useless- it's never dealt with energy manipulation like Magneto is capable of in terms of scope of power nor manner of manipulation, it's power source is wide open for Magneto to take advantage of, and it's not a plan that Blair has even proven capable of implementing.
Blair's defense is extremely weak. There's absolutely nothing stopping us from doing exactly what I detailed in my battle part of my writeup:
Find them. Crush them. Win. If faster, we can simply toss them into their own black hole, into our sun, or as various atoms across the Himalayas. No matter, we win either way.
In my next post, I'll detail why his offense is similarly lacking.
Judges, Smurph wants to make you believe his inadequate prep, haphazardly put together, can overcome my strategy. It is a strategy that uses my characters abilities in a synergistic fashion, making the sum greater than their individual parts and certainly greater than Smurphs team and strategy.
I will get to his points of contention, but I want to start from the very beginning.
1. Let us first go over a summary of the two strategies that were laid out.
Blair Wind Summary
Team merges with Narada
Exterior of ship and missiles made with axe material
Detonate Red Matter and we cut ourselves off from the pull of gravity by using Persuader's axe.
Create a decoy ship
We use our cloaking capability to turn invisible and raise our force fields
The opposing team dies by being sucked in the black hole, teleported into black hole, hit with weaponry, hit with weaponry and THEN teleported, or they just raise a white flag of surrender.
Smurph Summary
Cloak
Pump energy into Monolith through Lightray
Have Monolith stand guard over Magneto and Lightray move off to the side
As soon as Magneto detects enemy: Hold all metal in place and place shield around them.
Lightray will create a sun.
Magneto removes shield and allows team to be hit by sun
Going strictly over the two strategies laid out – since this is the written attack plan we both said we would accomplish - and overlapping to see the effects of each one on the other, we can see a few problems already developing for Smurph. They are listed as follows:
Strategy Overlapping Problems
We are both cloaked – except that I have a decoy ship he will immediately try to “attack” giving me his position. And since the Narada is still cloaked, they won’t be focusing on it at all.
He wants to both magnetically hold and place a shield around the decoy ship – except that my ship has rotating blades – meaning they are constantly moving and constantly cutting - with Persuader’s power. Which means any attempt to “grab” onto the ship magnetically will be cut and any shield shred to bits.
Lightray will make a sun while Monolith and Magneto stay still – except that they have no way to deal with the fact that there is a BLACK HOLE in their vicinity. In fact Smurph didn’t even dive into that fact, mostly because he has nothing he can do against it. Not only that, but the red matter has, on panel with one drop – not the entire thing like we are doing, taken out a super nova threatening the galaxy.
As you can see, Smurph is in a black hole. He cannot go back to the events as he laid them out, so he wants to contest the few points he believes he can by using false evidence and attack stratagems he never planned on using - and are more complicated than he wants you to believe. All this in the hopes that he can persuade you, the judges, that perhaps my plan won’t happen. It is sufficient to say, the rumors of my death [by Smurph] have been greatly exaggerated.
Just to make sure I thoroughly deflate Smurphs hopes, let’s go through his contested points
2. Madison can use the EM spectrum information from having handled Guardians suit - to have Narada adapt.
Madison is powerful. He can create random energy emitting guns, EM scanning inventions, along with a host of other crazy ass feats. Just for a quick reference of some examples:
Now we know that Box has created the Guardian suit – we have all seen the scan. You assume that I want the ship to start developing Magneto like qualities in controlling the EM spectrum? No, that is not the point. What I said was that he gave that information, regarding EM control, to Narada - the whole purpose is to have the Narada adapt, as it does so well, to electromagnetic manipulation and prepare against it. Everyone from Ironman to Sebastian Shaw has created anti-Magneto devices – and they have worked. If you think that Madison cannot, in conjunction with an adapting super space ship, do something similar then you do not know the character well enough.
This is completely out of context. Heather and James are two different beasts. James is a cyborg who can take on Galactus at this point and can think/communicate/act at speeds that defy logic. Madison simply wanted to talk to him.
3. Persuader’s Axe
Persuader’s axe can cut through anything. It is a pre-crisis invention that took stupidly ridiculous proportions. You’ve seen him cut MAGNETISM – your main weapon – and gravity. You want more proof than what I’ve already given? Fine.
Now he starts cutting off even more ridiculous things, such as the yellow rays of the sun off of Pre Crisis Superboy. This is simply astounding, it literally turned of Superboy's powers - instantly! http://img148.imageshack.us/f/super...gionofsupe.jpg/
And in his first major appearance he took his Axe and sliced a Sun Eater into 8 smaller pieces. For reference, a mature Sun-Eater has a diameter in excess of 2,000 miles. http://img163.imageshack.us/i/adv35...edoomedleg.jpg/
Magneto vs Persuader
Now, you want people to believe that you might be able to do something about the axe’s powers. Since these scans are more relevant to your argument here, I put them in this section.
Pretty scans. Except that it took Magneto an extended battle to analyze the energies of Proteus' energy being, stalling him with a feeble shield to do so. Three things prevent that from happening here
1) Rotating Saw Blades - the blades are constantly in motion. This means that they are constantly cutting Magneto's psionic (which as we know is part of the EM spectrum thanks to both Magneto and Ironman) attempts to analyze the blades and his magnetic efforts to control them. You can't do anything when the blades are constantly in motion cutting off the "strings" of your attempt to control me.
2) We won't be exchanging dialogue with Magneto to give him time to even try - especially as he is dealing with a space sized vacuum (black hole) and my missiles which cut through any of your shields. You won't have the chance to concentrate. Too many variables going on that you can’t control.
3)Me being cloaked and shielded with advanced technology that even 47 Klingon ships could not make a scratch too.
This would require you to be able to actually “touch” the axes without your psionic/magnetic tendrils being cut. That is simply impossible. Think about it, I have rotating saw blades that are constantly churning, cutting, and moving all in different directions. To affect me you have to touch a bunch of rotating saw blades. Perhaps if I had the handle still you might be able to do something, but with a ship simply composed of the axe you have nothing to manipulate as it can constantly cut your attempts in half.
So your idea of affecting the axe just because it uses nuclear emissions is absurd. You’d have to make some sort of contact, again either psionic or magnetic, to change it. Either way you are making contact with a weapon that’s sole purpose is to cut whatever the hell its master wants to cut.
4. Madison phasing in Narada and utilizing technology
Funny, because after that event the group actually had to fight off some Bedlamites in the ship – that Madison absorbed when he took over the base. But if you want more proof that he keeps the technology of whatever he phases into look no further than here:
Madison has just killed his brother and best friend, both who turned evil. The guilt of this caused him to subconsciously fight himself, controlling the Box suit. Then, fighting the Box suit he is subconsciously controlling, he takes a train yard full of scrap and phases into it – and it’s not turned into the Box armor but he keeps the train yard tech as his armor.
I’m not sure you completely understand Madison’s powers. Even without any kind of energy source, he constantly makes energy weapons. He instantly controls any and all technology – even living robots. As Mungi says “He is Marvel Earths ultimate technomorph.”
And while Madison is extremely powerful it’s the synergy with the Narada, which can adapt and re-purpose itself, that makes this a beautiful plan. By merging the two technologies together (either through merging together or using the Narada’s replicator), he and the Narada can repurpose the exterior hull to act as the rotating saw blades. It’s pretty simple. And yes Narada has a replicator – the thing they use to create weapons, ship parts, or food. By recycling something, they can use its materials to create things.
http://img714.imageshack.us/f/replicator.jpg/
5. My offense
Unfortunately you are lacking in defense against all the things I’ve got gunning your way.
Black Hole:
I’ve made the entirety of red matter into a black hole. Your response is to create a sun which would just get sucked by the Black Hole. The more material a black hole absorbs, the stronger it gets. So he’ll be absorbing the planet, your supposed sun, and your team.
This is what happened to a planet when a black hole was in it. Just imagine yourself and planet Earth being sucked in the same way.
My strategy overlaps his. This means that mine takes precedence.
We can create an anti-EM solution for Narada
Persuaders axe can literally cut anything
Madison can utilize any friggin technology he wants
My offense destroys yours. Especially since you will be trying to create a sun (sucked by Black Hole), hold my decoy ship magnetically and put up a shield around me magnetically (which Persuader’s axe shreds), and my weaponry kills you while you get sucked into the Black Hole.
I think the 'Windy' name must stem from the misplaced belief that being longwinded would help Blair spin a cogent argument.
For this part, I'm gonna talk about Blair's offense first, and why it falls. Then I'm gonna get back to Blair's terribly overrated defense, and break down why Blair's paragraphs of attempted rebuttal have little actual substance to them.
Let's talk my defense/his offense:
Blair wants us to believe that
He'll be capable of replicating the ship, the axe and their entire set of hyperbolized capabilities in the Box suit
He'll be capable of 'jettisoning' Persuader's essence and controlling the axe's technology
His 'decoy' will give us any pause
He'll be capable of creating a black hole
He'll be capable of teleporting enemies that aren't on the ship to somewhere else... not on the ship.
He'll be capable of cloaking from Magneto
...
The list goes on and on. Every time I scan his post for wording on a particular hole in his plan, I find two more.
Let's start with the basics:
For his offense, defense and (really) any element of his plan to work, Blair needs us to believe that he's capable of absorbing the Narada's entire set of abilities (including self-repairing nano technology specifically outfitted to work within parameters set by Romulan designs) into his armor.
Somehow he'll also be absorbing Red Matter, despite that not being any sort of metal, plastic or glass.
But we're to believe that the red matter would be fine undergoing the process of integration into Madison's body (despite, I repeat, not being made of any sort of material that he can manipulate)?
I find that hard to believe.
Harder still, though, is the belief that he'll actually be capable of absorbing the technology from any of the ship whatsoever.
Blair has given us scans and scans of how advanced this technology is:
Now, judges, let's keep in mind everything he's boasted about his technology.
Let's also keep in mind that Kandy ruled out the ship from being drafted with Nero- Blair had to find a way to bring it's technology from prep to battle without just drafting the ship.
He thought using Madison would be a good idea. He thought Madison would be capable of absorbing the entire complex and all of it's super-duper-mind-blowingly-ZOMG advanced tech, and incorporate it in his armor.
In theory, maybe a good idea, but, keeping in mind how advanced that tech is, and how much it makes us jizz our pants, let's look at the evidence for this argument:
Now, in my last post, I detailed my issue with this being used to support his plan, and Blair responded. The conversation went like:
Smurph: Wait a second... none of the technology from that complex that Box absorbed was actually kept. He just assimilated all the metals, and made himself a bigger suit that was no more advanced or versatile than before
Blair: Nuh-uh! See, here he does the same thing with a train yard, and uses the technology from that!
Then he provided these scans as supporting evidence:
1) He never makes explicit use of the technology contained within the train yard. He just... makes another suit, exactly like he did before
2) ...It's a train yard! WHAT!? That's pretty much exactly analogous to self-repairing nano-tech, technology capable of creating supernova-busting black holes, and tech capable of laughing off 47 Klingon Warships.
I heard this badass train yard just destroyed the klingon fleet...
The point is, logic tells us that one can't argue "tech is tech is tech". Clearly the Romulan designs that the nano-tech was specifically adjusted to meet would have to be maintained for the technology to actually work. Clearly if you disassemble it and absorb it, the designs aren't maintained, and it becomes oh so much metal for you to make another suit. Clearly all that Madison regularly does with foreign tech is assimilate the materials without the technology, and even if he were capable of such a feat, we would need to be provided with way better evidence than a ****ing train yard to apply it as an argument for a Romulan Warship.
Oh, and the same breakdown occurs when you analyze Blair's argument for restructuring his suit to contain Persuader's atomic axe- a weapon capable of cutting through any direct energy flow, and presumably physical material. Not to mention, he requires Nero's nanotechnology to 'repurpose it' for that cause, which he presumably just absorbed to make his helmet a little bigger or... something.
Blair doesn't have the black hole stuff- in fact he probably accidently ignited it and killed himself in his half-hazarded attempt to absorb it into his armor. He doesn't have the nano-technology that he claims will support each of his nonsensical arguments, and he doesn't have the shields or cloaking that laughed at the Klingon's.
Even if he did though?
His arguments still fall. Magneto isn't a bunch of Klingon's, and the manner in which Magneto detects and affects metal does not work in any way like the manner in which Klingon scanners detect ships- unless Nero's super-duper ship can repurpose itself to be something that Magneto can't affect (so... something that contains no energy whatsoever... when it kill itself in the black hole incident, that should work nicely) then any attempts to cloak won't hide Team Blair from Magnus and are simply another wasted effort.
Same goes for shields- we're not firing missiles, we're creating a sun. Not only will we know instantly where you are, we'll also create a sun on top of you (exactly what my much more concise prep stated) and if you'd like to argue that you don't get fried instantly, then we can having an actual debate here.
As for the axe, Blair's arguments rest on the idea that:
Neither of which are remotely true, and I'll get to that when I start talking about Blair's defenses.
Finally, Blair's teleportation and black hole idea don't make any sense. He wants to teleport us into the black hole, without any idea of how to find us (we're cloaked, and he lacks a power set capable of finding us, much less winning this match), or any capacity to actually teleport us- supposedly the ship could do it, but the ship only ever teleports things on to it, or off of it- and it takes far longer to set up than the few seconds that this match will take.
Regardless, none of his offensive efforts could actually work. Even if he were capable of creating a black hole, he's decided to sit right next to it, making it mighty simple for us to toss him in it, separate his atoms or to still create a sun on top of him- which Lightray could do while fighting the black hole, from far away, and far before Blair could hope to do anything.
This match will be over in seconds, and we can kill him before the black hole can kill us. Pretty straight forward, really.
My computer crashed a few times this week but I had this incomplete retort saved on a file. I don't really have the time right now to do more than this though. Happy Judging!
Desperate times call for insults
False. Who needs to replicate anything? I'm telling you that he will merge with the ship. Put his life essence inside of it. Just like he does with the Box armor, just like he did with the train yard. I did get this cleared with Kandy, the ruling is not I cant bring in the ship period, it is I cannot bring the ship unless the ship was a part of my group - aka Jeffries in spirit.
Did you not watch the movie? Or even more relevant, see the scans I posted?
Everything else you listed is inconsequential. Especially since you havent even touched on them at all yourself. You'd like to throw suspicion on perfectly valid points but can't go in depth about them, can you?
Thats borg and romulan designs. You know the Borg right? They assimilate tech. Just like this ship does, adapting itself.
In addition you seem to be under the impression that I will be assimilating this tech into my Box suit. Phuck the Box suit, Madison is jumping straight into the ship itself.
who's absorbing Red Matter? It is IN the ship itself. Reading comprehension for the win.
*sigh*. Its not Box + Madison = Replicated Narada. It is Madison + Narada = living ship.
Not that this matters in context, but he did actually absorb the Bedlamites. So there goes your theory (not that I was going down that path either way)
You asked for a feat of him putting his essence in anything other than the box metal. I delivered.
This is a guy who can talk to metal:
New Mutants #13 [Vol.3]:
Jeffries talks to the oil rig to show its secrets
Uncanny X-Men #519 [Vol.1]:
Jeffries shows that he doesn’t have normal vision and senses there are robots in the air when Magneto didn’t even sense them. Jeffries takes control over 7 hundred and eighty four trillion nano-recording bots just to prove a point. Magneto was in the same room, wonnder why he didnt do something about that?
X-Men Curse of the Mutants Smoke & Blood #01
Jeffries crates nanorobots called Pavodrones, which once injected he can easily treat someone or kill them just by “clinching”
This is a guy who's stray thoughts create tech: Uncanny X-Men #529
Jeffries just thinking about Danger, actually begins to create his own version of her just from his stray thoughts
Ok, here is Bentley jumping in to judge this match. Somewhat short, but at least all the arguments were sent, right?
Now, I'm not sure Blairwind's last post should be counted for the final decision, but most of the things he addressed are more or less clear in my mind. I think he actually can make Narada + Madison work. I'm not sold into the Persuader's Axe multi-saw strategy though, first of all I'm not sure how much energy that kind of huge mutation would take -the Axe running on nuclear emisions, as stated before-, but also de design of the shell, which moves, shifts and defends using the Axe's abilities. I find it far fetched to be honest. There was a short mention of Madison building anti-Magneto tech... Did that go anywhere?
Smurph did a good work throwing dirt at Blair's preparations and I think it worked more than once, I don't think teleporting would actually work, making the black hole would be quite useless. Also, Magneto's cloaking would work and Blair never focused on it. Whether the ship's cloaking would work against Magneto's abilities is also a fair question which was well raised by Smurph, Magneto is an energy manipulator of a high level and doesn't depend on the same abilities than the ships.
I'm kind of dissapointed about the result since this devolved into Magneto vs Narada pretty quickly, it's arguable whether Magneto could triumph the ship by himself, and there could've been a defense simpler than the Persuader's multi-saw defense... My point is that the ship became too many eggs in a single basket, if I somehow didn't believe in the ship working, there was no second plan. The Axe could cut the inminent solar energies Lightray is trying to pull, but in my take of this battle it's sitting there doing nothing.
Could Smurph get past the Persuader shielded ship? It's not entirely sure, at least at first, but Blairwind's attack wasn't all that convincing either. I'm really torn about some parts of the battle which weren't further developped.
I give it to Smurph, he kept his prep simple and focused in the debating, not a bad strategy. Well played Blair, I loved the way you played around the rules to get the ship
Okay, I'm promised Thursday and it's Saturday. Dorry for the extended delay. Work and fun got in the way.
I always look these tourny matches with a willing suspension of disbelief. It's the only way for me to be fair and not get into the micro-nitpicking we see in the vs threads.
That said, I believe both Blair and Smurph may have exaggerated a few things. But unless I read something that's totally outlandish, I'm content to leave well enough alone.
Blair's plan was multi-faceted. I wasn't 100% convinced that Madison could do all the things Blair set out to do. Persuader's ax kept giving me pause.
Smurph's plan was very straight forward and I felt was most plausible. Though I believe he's overreaching with Magneto's ability to "multi-task".
I own the Star Trek comic Blair references. I do believe the ship can be prepped against Smurph's attack with or without the ax enhancement, at least in the short run. And it's a truly massive ship. Though given time, Smurph's team would be able to do damage.
That leaves one last point for me, the red matter. The Narada was already shown to survive a black hole and can adapt on the fly. The red matter was the winning point for me.
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Jan 7th, 2011 05:45 AM
As soon as the match starts I immediately do three things in successive order:
Official pimp of Steverules 
