Lol, so obsessed with Superman vs. a bunch of no-names that you seem to be heavily speculating are all as powerful as a standard Kryptonian who we are assuming are Class 100.
That's Desak, Bor, Skurge, the Enchanters, Majestor Zelia of the Dark Gods etc. He then goes to fight Hela with Twilight when he gets back Mjolnir evenly (He beats her with help).
Thor would overpower Superman with one-arm behind his back and one-shot kill Rogool Zaar if we use these two instances as comparisons.
Abhilgened is so sad. He gets one shitty and ambiguous feat, and spams 3 different message boards with it. Settle down little guy, everyone still knows Rogool Zaar has been making Superman his b*tch for 4 months now consistently. Just because you have the time to consistently spam threads, don't forget the pecking order.
Abhilgiend: "It doesn't count because the dead don't retain their power, but it's actually because I don't like it and it shits all over everything Superman did."
P.S. There are entire storylines of the dead of Asgard operating in the realms of Hela, as they would in the living, and casually crossing over once released. I just stuck to this one more relevant story, because it's no fun beating up the slow kid on the bus with a baseball butt. A pillow case full of nickles is just fine.
Just so we're clear. Abhiligend is assuming this collection of circus freaks and random aliens all retain their power in the Phantom Zone (Which ACTUALLY drains the powers of it's denizens as recently as the last two years) are Kryptonian level: https://postimg.cc/Th5B60C7
I'll let you go back to spamming your stupidity, I just wanted to remind you how easy it is to shit all over your parade using your own parameters.
I also make sure to put the scans to the issues with issue numbers so individuals can read the comics for themselves, and laugh at your stupidity.
Edit: I almost missed this:
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"I can't seem to beat him in a physical confrontation. I can't win in hand-to-hand combat..."
*Superman gets beat up. Owned and admits he can't win in internal monologue.*
Abhiligend: Superman is holding back.
And wait. This is the BEST part. Superman is WEAKENING in the Phantom Zone, as everyone would expect. But the half dozen collection of freaks that have been there for decades, are NOT? Despite being Kryptonian?
Stay classy Abhiligend.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Nov 19th, 2018 at 08:26 PM
Abhiligend, neither I or anyone else forgets Thor #600. Bor failing to wield Mjolnir is because Thor is still alive and the enchantment still holds, not because he is less powerful (Read the scans). This is why I linked the comic.
My favorite aspect about this is how ignorant you are of Asgardian Hel being a separate realm where living/dead crossover when released by Hela. Like say....the current issue where Thor and Balder are fighting together.
Fyi, Hela wields the Twilight Sword. Spider-Man could resurrect Thanos at full power with that.
Not under Bendis no, there isn't. His depiction of the dead don't comes close to the living in terms of power.
Also phantom zone is not shown as per the previous depictions under Bendis. °
Yeah, who lost to Enchantress straight up and then owned Thor twice.
But yeah Enchantress>>>Thor in formidability I agree.
This is just sad now. Just because Thor goes all out everytime he gets stomped doesn't mean Superman does the same. It's literally in the same comic too.
In two posts, you have pulled on depiction of previous writers and yet dismissed anything that is not Bendis for Thor (Negatively) and doing the same for Superman (Positively).
So which is it, are we only sticking to what Bendis has written in these two stories for Thor and Superman, or are we not? Or do you have a scan of Bendis, explicitly saying that Kryptonian's only fly when they have reached full power?
P.S. I wager I know more about Thor's enchantment than you do. I know how it works, throughout all of continuity, both in comics and out of comics in regards to editorial opinion. However, the "new" classic enchantment was not the reason given in those scans. Bor was resurrected specifically to break the enchantment and was not able to lift the hammer because Thor was still alive. That doesn't explicitly chive with all continuity but it does not necessarily contradict it either; before Walter Simonson introduced Beta Ray Bill, being Worthy "the old classic enchantment" was synonymous with being Thor. I.e. he was the only one who could lift the hammer aside from Destroyer/Odin while it was enchanted.
I highly doubt Bendis was being a heavy continuity buff at the moment, it is not in his character, but he did say he read up on a few old Thor stories for this particular series (Which is obvious by him including Desak and the Enchanters) so perhaps he was. I can't read minds; just post the scans and follow the print.
The rest is you literally just dismissing anything you dislike or disagree with. Not even really points. It could be comments under a random youtube video tbh.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Nov 20th, 2018 at 03:21 AM
Guess what, Bendis is an inconsistent writer. Shocking news to someone like you I guess.
Unless contradicted, that's what happens in actual continuity. If Bor had lifted mjolnir, I wouldn't say he was weakened in Hel.
I hardly think so. You aren't the only one who has read Thor's comics.
Bor being resurrected to break the enchantment (more to the point he was specifically stated to be able to lift it because he had already done it) and Thor being alive doesn't changes the spell on it.
Your usual mental gymnastics are coming into play I see.
Yeah, fat loads of proof you posted "I guess Bendis did this, now agree with me Damn you".