Burton had the right idea on the look of Gothem being dark and all but he went overboard though and made it to where you could hardly see what was going on most the time during the night scenes.I like to see what I am watching when i am at a movie theatre Burton get the idea set in motion on how to make it look dark and gloomy but just went too far with it.Nolan nailed it and got it perfect.
Bale sucks!! I can't get past his annoying voice, on top of that I don't like his acting. I've watch the Dark Knight at least five times, and each time I find his acting boring and blant.. I can watch Michael Keaton, Danny Devito and Michelle Pfeiffer all day.. It was my favorite Batman movie, and in my opinion the best one. The good thing about DK was Joker, other than that I didn't care for any of the characters..
Keaton was the best Batman imho. Burton did an amazing job bringin an surrealistic and dark Gotham to life. Keaton was amazin as Batman and I didn't mind his cold/remote Wayne.
The new Batman was more realistic and I like it but you could change the titel to "awesome-ninja-hero" and it would still work.
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For me its not a question of which actor played a better Batman but instead which director gave us a better Batman. Both Bale and Keaton have given us great performances as Batman. No one should argue that both have done a fine job in the role of Batman. Personally, however, i find the two to be very different in style. Much like Jacks Joker and Heaths Joker. I can't say who did a better acting job because the two are so very different. I can say which one i prefer but not which did a better job.
I prefer NOlans batman because he is more ruthless and feels much more realistic than Burtons. I know Burton wasnt going for realism but thats what i prefer I prefer Keatons performance though.
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Keaton looked a hell of a lot better in the 89 Batman. Batman needs two characteristics to make him work, Dark & Spooky. While Nolan has Bale capture the dark side of Batman Burton did a much better job in capturing the dark and spooky side of Batman with Keaton.... as far as looks go anyway. I also prefer Burton's Gotham. Batman needs a concrete world to work.
Both actors did an amazing job with what they were given. Somehow Keatons face just looks better in the suit though. Overall however Nolan's movies appeal to me more and I say that with a heavy heart b/c as far as looks go Burton's Batman & Gotham looks better then Nolan's. Wish we could fuse Nolans story with Burtons look.
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Wanna add another thing. Have a look at the attached pic. All actors who have played batman look like themselves in the suit, with the exception of Michael Keaton. When Keaton is in the suit he just doesn't look like Keaton somehow. He looks Nutz... Luv it.
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reasoning: While bale has the highest score for me overall, as another person have pointed, he had to use a fake scary voice. Serious letdown IMO and very hard to take seriously at times. Keaton needs no such thing to become intimidating as his voice can reach such assertive tone without needing to be exagerrated too much. Buuuut he really doesn't look the part of Bruce Wayne.
Bale pointed out in an interview with Entertainment Weekly that he does the role with the thought that there are actually three distinct aspects to Bruce Wayne: The public billionaire playboy, the private Bruce who is still childlike in some respects, and the scourge of Gotham's underworld.
Bale is the only one who nails all three in my opinion. His voice did irritate me a few times though, but he didn't sound anything like he did as Bruce. He is the only one of the acters I probably wouldn't be able to tell who was in the costume in real life.
I really have a hard time with these kind of debates. Personally, my favorite Batman is Kevin Conroy and think he could easily play the role in live action.
Keaton and Bale were both good Batmen and I really don't know who was qualitatively better. I do think that Bale was the right Batman for Nolan's movies and that no other live action Batman (except maybe Conroy) would've worked in those movies just like Christian Bale wouldn't have worked in Tim Burton's movies or in the Adam West tv show.
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No offense, starlock, but I always thought of Michael Keaton as the flabby, out-of-shape Batman. A padded muscle suit just doesn't disguise the fact that as Bruce Wayne, he is way too thin and unathletic to be a convincing Batman.
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I can respect the hell out of that! Though I will say I prefer the unrealistic version of batman. But bale could turn his head. Believe it or not I thought that rocked!
Man, what are you smoking? Keaton's batman was way more ruthless. Not only did keaton's batman kill the main villain but his henchmen too. Lets have a body count:
Keaton: killed joker, bashed henchman's head into giant bell before throwin him to his death, lit a man on fire with the batmobile, put a bomb down a man's pants, killed penguin, blew up a factory of joker's workers
Bale: Ras al ghul?
as far as your realism goes, both wore padded black bullet proof ammor. They both used a grappling gun and had an almost indestructible car. both used martial arts and were hated by the police.
Agreed here.
Keaton is my favorite Batman.
I loved his look,the costume was awesome and really captured how Batman is at the time in the comics.
Also I LOVE his Batmobile.
His version is the best.
Nolan did a great take on Gotham in Begins then he got lazy for the 2 movies after using real locations in America. Not once was I convinced it was gotham City in TDKR.
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Burton get the idea set in motion on how to make it look dark and gloomy but just went too far with it.Nolan nailed it and got it perfect.
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