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What exactly has wwh done that makes you think he's so much more powerful? Superman has fought many characters as powerful as Zeus, and he's almost always done much better than the Hulk did against Zeus. And current Rulk is a lot weaker than rulk when he had his energy draining ability, but people have still claimed Rulk is still more powerful than Green hulk (Thor, and Wolverine had said as much).

I'd like to see current Hulk taking an explosion equal to 50 supernovas while weakened. Has he done anything to suggest he could survive that?
stop talking out of your ass. hulk defetaed the rulk with all his powers and lied to him about removing his power draining abilities.

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hulk is a lot less durable than SM, but his superior damage soak and healing factor makes him his equal as far as staying in a fight is concerned. that's it.

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I wonder why people still bother arguing with Carver.


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hulk is a lot less durable than SM, but his superior damage soak and healing factor makes him his equal as far as staying in a fight is concerned. that's it.
i think that it is more iffy depending on story and not always constant as Thor or Superman who on average take more blunt damage without injury.


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I mean yeah, didn't he tank adamantium bullets before?


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his clone was shot through his brain by adamantium bullet.
during WWH he got shredded by adamantium shrapnel iirc.
during future imperfect he fought a war dog who was capable of crushing adamantium with it's hydraulic cybernetic mouth. professor Hulk destroyed it before it could fully increase its crushing presure


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Besides what have basically been stated on panel about him being far more powerful than his previous counterparts, basically wwh/current hulk was a threat to marvel earth. That alone makes me believe that he was on another level.
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Marvel earth? Well, yeah, considering Thor was gone. He beat a skrull imposter Black Bolt. used BFR on the Juggernaut, tricked Dr. Strange with a cheap shot, beat Iron man. And stalemated the Sentry with help. And keep in mind, he had a lot of help. Not all of Marvel earth was against him. Not by a long shot. hercules, etc were on his side. Namor wasn't against him. At his maddest ever he shook the eastern seaboard of a continent. Superman pulverizes planets and he doesn't have to get mad to do so.

Oh, and then he got one-shotted by a satellite.

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Hyperion survived a sun going super nova, Gladiator survived a solar system destroying blast, doctor strange survived attacks from galactus, rulk survived attacks from an angry galactus and each and every last one of them fell to hulks fist, so I don't get your point about 50 super novas. Was he in the heart of this blast because if I remember, he only felt the shockwaves of the explosion.


What do you mean you don't get the point of it? 50 supernovas is considerably stronger than a solar system destroying blast. Like....50 times stronger. Yeah, he was in the heart of it, and he was weakened. I posted the scan in this very thread. And tanking reality shattering punches might even be more impressive if you ask me. To compare the durability of superman and the hulk is completely insane. Its just a fact that the strength and durability levels of heroes in DC is far beyond their counterparts in marvel. And I'm a Thor fan mostly, but I can admit that the power levels of dc heroes are ridiculous compared to marvel.

And yeah, taking a shot from Galactus can be impressive, but we've seen LOTS of heroes do that. Thor has. And BRB survived a hit from a fully fed galactus and then fell into the center of a sun and survived, all of which happened after a lengthy fight with a herald. And I've seen thor ONE SHOT BRB.

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Well, I have no reason to debate against you about this subject since we basically agree with each other about them being tagged.

I don't think that Glads nor Supes could withstand what Hulk went through in that fight.


glad and supes durability >hulks.

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his clone was shot through his brain by adamantium bullet.
during WWH he got shredded by adamantium shrapnel iirc.
during future imperfect he fought a war dog who was capable of crushing adamantium with it's hydraulic cybernetic mouth. professor Hulk destroyed it before it could fully increase its crushing presure


I don't think you understand the definition of durability... going by your standards, Colossus and Morlun>Hulk.

Its harder to drop Hulk vs Thor or Supes. Sure, they can take sharpnel better but Hulk could last longer in a fight due to his healing factor.


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What's that from??


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I don't think you understand the definition of durability... going by your standards, Colossus and Morlun>Hulk.

Its harder to drop Hulk vs Thor or Supes. Sure, they can take sharpnel better but Hulk could last longer in a fight due to his healing factor.


Damage Soak =/= Durability.


Colossus' skin is definitely more durable than Hulk's. Hulk has far greater damage soak though.


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glad and supes durability >hulks.


Against sharpnel... you are right buddy but against blunt force... naah. Hulk has taken on the entire avengers including Thor and brushed off ALL of their attacks.


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Blunt force.

Piercing.

It all falls under PSI in the end.


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Pak's new Surfer mini here is the full page.

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^That's what I was guessing thanks; that Surfer was viewing a fight that had already happened.


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Zeus for a decisive and clear victory.

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