it's not the what, but the whom. people have placed a misnomer on the character and it's hard to fix that. people just need to make themselves clearer in the OP *shrug*
however, since you asked: imo, if the thread is labeled "WWH vs x", to me that says green scar, who also goes by "worldbreaker" (according to the prophecy) so that includes hulk in HOTM and vice versa as HOTM was a sequel due to the events in planet hulk
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Frankly, what about that post was snarky? It seemed to make a lot of sense, to me.
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You got a pretty coherent answer, you just chose to focus on whatever "snariness" you saw there.
And again, you chose to read it as "ALL", whereas I chose to assert that many here, and in some seriously unhinged fashion, manifest their hostility towards a fictional character. This weighs down many - many - threads, but the one poster who is subjected to moderator attention is ... Not actually the one raving and ranting against anyone, merely goading them in return for their hostility towards him and a character he likes.
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Last edited by janus77 on Aug 4th, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Meh, posters aside, just my two cents. Not here to argue, we've danced this dance a lot now, so if my post goads anyone into a rage, please just remember they're just words, about a fictional character lol.
Maybe this goes back to the whole 'fighting to the best of their ability' vs 'fighting in character'. Can Thor unleash the Godblast? Yes, he can. Does he do it in every fight? No, in character, he doesn't. Surfer doesn't go around tossing black holes in every fight, and MM doesn't really go intangible/use telepathy/superspeed/superstrength/invisible all at the same time.
Can WWH go into HOTM omni-blast mode? Sure, if you just look at powersets. He gets stronger the madder he gets, he's in a fight, he'll get madder until he reaches a level where he can outmuscle anyone in a forum match. But in character? It took a specific set of circumstances, imo, to get him to output those levels of power. He never reached those levels in a fight during the WWH story arc.
Now, some posters will say that is because the Hulk is always holding back, and I agree. Civilians were present etc etc. But just like Superman never goes all-out in his battles, and Thor never goes all out, I think, and this is just a suggestion, that unless its CISless WWH, he stays at the levels seen in the majority of the WWH story arc.
Not looked at your posts, but there is a clique of, for want of a better word, anti-Hulk posters, who basically dislike both the character (and here, we're talking an unhealthy degree of animus for a fictional character) as well as a particular forummer. I'm not saying he's free from blame for a lot of the shit he receives, but it is quite a deliberate and unfair amount of shit and moreover, the same people then complain to a very receptive Mod, who also happens to be particularly keen on 'moderating' this forummer.
Regarding using his powers to their maximum in every fight, if you look at the way the encounters are presented, the opponent is usually presented at their maximum displayed (and in many cases, merely implied) power output, then that is used as an argument for why Hulk would lose. This inevitably brings up the counter that, Hulk too can all upon far more than what he usually displays...
Further, you have the fact that during WWH arc, it was frequently stated that he was operating at those powers, but just pulling his punches. Which is why he was called "The World Breaker" throughout Planet Hulk and WWH. So, as to your contention that Hulk needed the circumstances to bring out that level of power. A forum fight would be free of the single (explicitly stated) inhibiting factor to his output - innocent civilians - so it would basically be him fighting with as much power output as he needs.
Another point, there's a sort of implicit assumption that he needs to bust planets, in order to defeat heralds, this is patently false and we've seen many many high heralds fall to far far less. So even if he doesn't have the luxury of unleashing, he still has the power to carry the fight until they tire or are knocked out.
what you stated as "ALL", of course. It was your mistake and your continued misrepresentation, you should be the one to say where you read me stating that "ALL mods/posters here hate Hulk".
Re the "not that you'd care", you're becoming a touch sensitive there, aren't you? I didn't misstate you nor misread your comment that HOTM starts from (an arbitrarily defined by you) point within WWH arc, where Banner unleashes a little too much power.
And indeed you are wrong, nothing "starts" from there, but FOTH does start from the end of WWH, then we get the execrable WWHulks and eventually Hulk returns and owns Rulk and then we move on to the events of Heart Of The Monster.
So, quite a lot of arcs in-between there, and again, not that you'd care, since you arbitrarily slice an arc to advance an erroneous position to placate an outcry from certain hostile forummers.
Before I answer you and name names (and thus get dragged into yet another *****-fest), why don't you answer the original question, where do I state that ALL mods/forummers are anti-Hulk?
If you can't find any instance of said accusation, I expect you'll do the decent thing and say so.
Janus, your misunderstanding is not Pr's problem. If I see you troll or antagonize another mod, or make blanket statements about mods, it will be a warning.
This is very simple. WWH feats happened in the World War Hulk arc. Planet Hulk/Green Scar feats happened in Planet Hulk & World War Hulk, since he was called Green Scar in both. WBH feats happened at the end World War Hulk and in Heart of the Monster.
As noted earlier:
And:
So let's sum this up, okay. When citing feats from World War Hulk, we don't use Planet Hulk feats. When citing feats from Heart of the Monster, we don't use Stay Angry feats. There is only one, green skinned, Banner Hulk who happens to have appeared in multiple arcs (go figure) with varying displays of power (). If a thread specifies WWH, then we use WWH feats. If a thread says Green Scar Hulk, then it's Planet Hulk and WWH feats. If a thread just Says Hulk, then it's all fair game barring any current arcs which would negate using those feats.
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). If a thread specifies WWH, then we use WWH feats. If a thread says Green Scar Hulk, then it's Planet Hulk and WWH feats. If a thread just Says Hulk, then it's all fair game barring any current arcs which would negate using those feats.
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