Again with the need. Post some proof instead of wild speculation.
He's still a world heavyweight champion and went the distance with Rocky twice, something Lang couldn't even come close to doing. Also, in the first film Rocky was giving him internal injuries and internal bleeding and he still stayed in the fight. Then Drago comes along and annihilates him in two rounds. Drago was showed using the machine, because Stallone obviously intended for Drago to be Rocky's most powerful opponent.
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I really have no idea why jug is being this stubborn. I don't understand how it's so hard to accept that Rocky was pushing himself to his physical peak in Rocky IV, past a level he had gone in any of the previous films, or why it's so hard to accept that Drago had the hardest hitting punch of any Rocky opponent thus far (including Clubber), when the film went out of it's way to showcase exactly how powerful Drago hits and how it is more powerful than anything that has come before it.
Besides your subjective interpretation of Rocky's blocking (which can easily and is meant be interpreted as his training, since, you know, he trained harder to fight Drago than he did against Clubber), please provide any evidence you have whatsoever that Clubber can hit harder than "the average heavyweight".
You seem to have this insane notion that Rocky's durability and physical stats stay static throughout the four films, that all of Rocky's training regimens would produce the same kind of physical output. He needed speed to fight Clubber, which is why he worked on footwork and agility. Against Drago, he worked on building more muscle mass than he had in the previous films so he could tank 2000 psi hits that he didn't face previously.
I could repeat this ad nauseam. Your interpretation of Rocky's blocking is at best a nitpick and at worst complete idiocy and misunderstanding of the concepts of training regimens and the specific effects each had on the human body and pretty much event that took place in Rocky IV. It is made absolutely, abundantly, undisputedly clear that Drago can hit harder than anybody Rocky's ever faced, including Clubber. /debate.
If Rocky fought Lang the way he did Apollo then he'd be KO'd within two rounds. Rocky does not hit anywhere near as hard as Drago so that doesn't really prove anything.
What part of Rocky blocking and dodging one opponent and not the other is subjective? What part of the character's statements explaining to Rocky(and the viewers for that matter) that Rocky cannot stand toe to toe with one opponent but not the other is subjective?
Powering thru Rocky's superhuman durability is prrof Clubber hits harder than the normal heavyweight.
Which training did Rocky do that made his head more durable?
Wrong again. The fights, the character lines and the focus of training prove who was the harder hitter. and that was Clubber
The video where he takes a bunch of clean hits and mocks Lang? OK.
There's no proof that Clubber hits anywhere near as hard as Drago. In fact, seeing how easily Rocky koed Lang, there's no proof Lang hits harder than Rocky either. Rocky has won every single fight via knockout, even in his 50s he was strong enough to squat 400+ and clean and jerk 300+.
Character statements are 100% subjective, and while Clubber may have been intended to be Rocky's strongest opponent that changed when Drago was created. Hence the PSI scene.
Rocky trained for strength and stamina, he had far more staying power in Rocky IV then than in Rocky III.
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probably with the rest of the body in the Hearts on Fire training montage where he gains much more muscle mass than he needed for Clubber. Again, your belief that the human body's durability is static and can not be affected by exercise is absurd.
I'll admit when you come with a reasonable argument.
And stamina
Nope.
Clubber KOed one guy on screen, Rocky took down over a dozen. And then there are Rocky's training montages. By screen feats Rocky is likely stronger than Lang.
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What character? I know for damn sure you aren't talking about Mickey, because that means you take the word of the boxing trainer over that of a supercomputer that records Drago hitting at over 2000 psi. If not, what character?
Again, that ridiculous "durability is static" thing. You honestly think Rocky was as durable in 3 as he was in 4? Had he gone against Drago in III physical shape, he would have been Apollo-ed. Stop ignoring that Rocky's training in IV made him more durable, which is why he tanked more damage.
Also, there the notion that in the entire 15 round fight against Drago, Rocky blocked less than the times in the mere 3 round fight against Clubber, is again absurd.
"Hearts on firreee..."
What the hell is it with you and this inability to accept that people can increase their durability by gaining muscle mass, and that his training regimen would produce far more bulk than his Rocky 3 fight, which was focused mainly on speed and agility?
Your line of thinking negates the entire point of the fourth film in the same way that Bartleby and Loki entering Heaven defies God's word. you have completely and totally misconstrued the entire point of the fourth film. The entire point of Rocky IV is that Drago is better than anybody Rocky's ever faced. The fact that you fail to realize this ....it's not good
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