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Pak, the best Superman writer baring Grant Morrison in the New 52 is also gone...
Pak's run on Action fizzled out after the Convergence reboot BS, imo. Prior to that, however, it was fantastic. Tbh, I actually enjoyed his pre-Convergence issues(#25-40) more than Morrison's run overall... Which still shocks the hell out of me.


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The whole Superman depowered thing kinda held down Yang and Pak both. They should be telling real Superman stories instead of this.


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Luckily Tomasi is on board to take over, and he's awesome. His GLC and Batman & Robin are top notch.

Johns gets all the credit for GL's rebirth, [not the mini, but overall resurgence], and perhaps rightfully so, but having Tomasi absolutely acing the other book through the entire run, even all the mandated crossovers into his stories helped out a lot.


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Most of Marvel and DC's output is garbage. The retailer comments on the link above about Marvel's loss of a house art style, lackluster, unfocused stories, people dropping their old regular titles etc. are right on the money.


Agreed. The only comics I bother reading anymore are Justice League and all the Star Wars titles. Everything else is so terrible I wouldn't even bother torrenting any, let alone buy any.

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I'm reading more from Marvel and DC now than I was a few years ago. ANAD has a bunch of titles I enjoy, especially.

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Most of Marvel and DC's output is garbage. The retailer comments on the link above about Marvel's loss of a house art style, lackluster, unfocused stories, people dropping their old regular titles etc. are right on the money.


Interesting on Marvel- DC's problems are no shock, but Marvel had been on a pretty steady upswing before now. The art bit is especially interesting. My view on Marvel writing is better... but I do think the lack of attention on X-men, a traditional best seller, has hurt (how they handled the end of the 'revolutionary Cyclops' plot was weeeeeak), trying to push inhumans as a mutant replacement is reaaaally risky, and IMO not a good move.

I think their delays during Secret Wars didn't help either.


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Surprised it's taken so long for people to get sick of the big two and start flocking to Indie companies... That's where the great reads have always been. thumb up


It helps that there's more of them, there's always been good indy but not always a good *variety* of good indy. Even now, the big 2's output makes up the bulk of available titles.

And if one likes positive heroic action, the Big 2 are still the main place to be.


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I think the in-house art style is very important. The retailers are saying people are complaining and I'm not surprised. People reading Marvel expected a certain standard - these days when I look at half the stuff from Marvel the art alone is enough to put me off reading it. Even if the stories are fantastic (and let's face it, even the better stuff isn't) the art would stop me from buying it. I just don't want it. It used to be a few titles here and there, now it seems to be a good portion of their line.

And the stories are unfocused a lot of the time. Too many plot devices, silly unbelievable or just plain nonsensical resolutions, anticlimaxes, inconsistencies, poor attention to character history, dumb feats, too much pushing of lame characters because diversity, characters that are all just way too overpowered, universes being destroyed and recreated all the time... it goes on.

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I think it's fine to have some books in different styles- Squirrel Girl shouldn't change- but consistency does help.


And Marvel's strength over the last decade has been it's planning story to story, loosening on that is an issue.


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