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ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Maul.
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Yeah, because it, you know, took Kenobi forever to trounce Grievous in sabers.


We have reason (and when I say reason, I mean details from the ROTS novelization) to believe that Obi-Wan Kenobi was being empowered by the Force to an uncommon degree during that battle, hence his somewhat casual dominance over the general in what was otherwise a rivalry in which they seemed rather equitable in overall dueling ability.

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We have reason (and when I say reason, I mean details from the ROTS novelization) to believe that Obi-Wan Kenobi was being empowered by the Force to an uncommon degree during that battle,
You have the excerpt on hand? I'm way too lazy to look, atm.


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You have the excerpt on hand? I'm way too lazy to look, atm.


I have something in my hand, all right, but it's most certainly not the excerpt.

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You have the excerpt on hand? I'm way too lazy to look, atm.


Something about him becoming a vessel of this Force or something like that.


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I have something in my hand, all right, but it's most certainly not the excerpt.

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I'd say its more a 'oh crap somethings in ma butt' face.


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Nah, especially given that Soresu users are known for getting involved in long, drawn out battles.
So it would take RotS Kenobi 20 minutes to kill Zett Jukasa? Having prolonged duels is a tactic used to wear down or provide opportunities against superior opponents. Nothing implies that it would take a Soresu user forever and a day to defeat someone who is vastly their superior in skills and technique.

Furthermore, even if it was a long duel, it would mostly be of Obi-Wan toying with him, ala his CW movie fight with Ventress. Hardly some desperate scrap like against Anakin.


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Meant to say vastly their inferior. You cock.


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[B] Nothing implies that it would take a Soresu user forever and a day to defeat someone who is vastly their superior in skills and technique.


Assuming you mean inferior (although superior is probably right), where's your canon quote/evidence of Maul being "vastly inferior" to Kenobi in saber skill/technique?


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D... d-did you just call me... a butt face?

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Assuming you mean inferior (although superior is probably right), where's your canon quote/evidence of Maul being "vastly inferior" to Kenobi in saber skill/technique?
Superior showings, has fought much more reputable characters, has a track record that isn't restricted purely to defeating two featless wonders then losing to a Padawan, etc.


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has fought much more reputable characters,


Maul's fought Palpatine, who's a great deal more dangerous than anyone I can recall Obi-Wan raising his blade against.

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Dooku > Palpatine in sabers according to the infallible Sorgo.

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Dooku > Palpatine in sabersaccording to the infallible Sorgo.


I shan't insult or attack Sorgo ([SPOILER - highlight to read]: for I was rather fond of him), but while the good Count's technical expertise very likelypossibly surpassed his that of his Master, Palpatine was substantially more powerful in the Force and that usually gives the opponent an edge; Palpatine is more dangerous, intelligent, and powerful than his elderly disciple.

So Maul's got the edge when it comes to the pinnacle of reputable opponents.

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I believe I just did both. I will allow you to wipe your face off with the nearest available napkin, but you will keep it as a souvenir.



edited for accuracy

edited again for accuracy; Palpatine was a practitioner of Juyo, which requires that he be a master of multiple lightsaber forms, which indicates great skill.

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The difference being that Kenbi didn't get his ass kicked against said reputable opponents like Maul did against Palpatine.


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Kenobi in seconds.


I really cant see Kenobi defeating ANY Sith Lord in seconds.

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The difference being that Kenbi didn't get his ass kicked against said reputable opponents like Maul did against Palpatine.


LOL Kenobi never got his ass handed to him by Dooku??!! Even that was with Anakin at his side.

Kenobi has no feats against Dooku whatsoever.

Kenobi also got disarmed and knocked on his ass by Ventress, someone who is not even close to Dooku's league.

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As ever, I'm talking about lightsaber combat.


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Still no feat N.

All we have is a thought of Dooku's while he was under serious pressure from Anakin..

Oh and getting disarmed and tossed on the floor by Ventress was in Saber combat.

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