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psycho gundam
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it all boiled down to ambient amping his dupes to herald level when the rules said that exact thing was to be stopped at all costs. prior to that he was stripped of the COS, ambient rescinded that part also... pretty simple after that


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Now that the match is over in all honesty, Ambient should have taken the match.

If the argument was that Magento would bastardize Cable due to metallic body parts. That was a poor sense of Logic. This version of Cable, and his Clones counted Uber TK which rivals Magentos EM, on top of an active stand alone force field.

Magneto would have his hands full with one Cable, let alone a thousand.

Ambient benefited with the fact that he can neutralize their undead army, by assimilating it….had he willed it. He didn’t even have to touch them, the T.O. can be infective through the airwaves.

Anyhow just my two cents. Congrants to Leo, and Psycho.


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i think ambient just lacked the killer instinct, he has a solid plan even with the nerfs


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I actually think there was a huge, huge problem with Ambient's plan that was never brought up, but I should probably keep it to myself in case he doesn't redraft.


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i'll be perfectly frank and say i didn't think we'd win the match. it's always interesting reading the judges' rationales.

The only thing i was unsure off was breaking Mags shield, got me thinking it could go both ways.. wink
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Now that the match is over in all honesty, Ambient should have taken the match.

If the argument was that Magento would bastardize Cable due to metallic body parts. That was a poor sense of Logic. This version of Cable, and his Clones counted Uber TK which rivals Magentos EM, on top of an active stand alone force field.

Magneto would have his hands full with one Cable, let alone a thousand.

Ambient benefited with the fact that he can neutralize their undead army, by assimilating it….had he willed it. He didn’t even have to touch them, the T.O. can be infective through the airwaves.

Anyhow just my two cents. Congrants to Leo, and Psycho.

It was just 1 uber tk the rest was your normal classic Cable with still solid TK..

I was saving the T.O smile ..
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I actually think there was a huge, huge problem with Ambient's plan that was never brought up, but I should probably keep it to myself in case he doesn't redraft.

Do tell..

Let me guess first.

"How Cable could access his mutant powers when his body is fully taken over by techno-organic via the merging with Warlock? big grin


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No, actually it was the duplication issue. Once warlock built the armor ariund sunspot, he was able to transmit his mutant powers sufficiently for flight. Aside from the fact that there is a huge difference between launching off like a walrus with a jetpack and making duplicates just in terms of difficulty, I never saw any reason why accessing MM's powers would allow Warlock to make copies of his melded cable form -- if he could even access MM's powers, from what we've seen it would simply mean that, when the armor was hit with kinetic force warlock could absorb it and make copies of Jamie, []not[/I] copies of cable-melded warlock surrounding a new jamie. In short, I thought the cable part of your plan, with all of its tech was totally solid, but I didn't buy the duplication process at all. Still, very creative.


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"How Cable could access his mutant powers when his body is fully taken over by techno-organic via the merging with Warlock? big grin
you're damn right that was a problem evil face


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I command you to forget everything you read in this tread.. Blam! Blam!


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No, actually it was the duplication issue. Once warlock built the armor ariund sunspot, he was able to transmit his mutant powers sufficiently for flight. Aside from the fact that there is a huge difference between launching off like a walrus with a jetpack and making duplicates just in terms of difficulty, I never saw any reason why accessing MM's powers would allow Warlock to make copies of his melded cable form -- if he could even access MM's powers, from what we've seen it would simply mean that, when the armor was hit with kinetic force warlock could absorb it and make copies of Jamie, []not[/I] copies of cable-melded warlock surrounding a new jamie. In short, I thought the cable part of your plan, with all of its tech was totally solid, but I didn't buy the duplication process at all. Still, very creative.

Huh! I've missed this one.. erm

When Multiple man activates his mutant powers its not only his biological form that gets copied but also any tech such as weapons, cloths, armors around his form.. he has been shown to do this in comics.. ++ the fact that dough the armor might not seem like the usual merging feat of Warlock they are still considered as one and if it really need be, i can fully meld MM to Warlock -- I have posted of scan of Warlock melded with more than one individual.. Either way it still works i think..

late reply ssrry.. smile


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Huh! I've missed this one.. erm

When Multiple man activates his mutant powers its not only his biological form that gets copied but also any tech such as weapons, cloths, armors around his form.. he has been shown to do this in comics.. ++ the fact that dough the armor might not seem like the usual merging feat of Warlock they are still considered as one and if it really need be, i can fully meld MM to Warlock -- I have posted of scan of Warlock melded with more than one individual.. Either way it still works i think..

late reply ssrry.. smile


Heh. However, merging with two people=/=access to the powers of those two, and any stuff Multiple Man has duplicated other than himself was, while complicated, not sentient and certainly not having herald level powers.
Other than surreal phalanx-biology-violating concept of siring himself... one of those things just isn't going to work.


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Heh. However, merging with two people=/=access to the powers of those two, and any stuff Multiple Man has duplicated other than himself was, while complicated, not sentient and certainly not having herald level powers.
Other than surreal phalanx-biology-violating concept of siring himself... one of those things just isn't going to work.


Exactly. The strategy is inventive, but I simply don't see it working.


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I see your point if my intention was to have two or more separate individual duplicating only with one of this individual having said so abilities.. You have to take the amalgam as face value -- a single entity.. It would be no diff. than Jamie duplicating himself..

Also there was no herald level character during the duplication though I see no relevancy of this matter during this process as it would not be possible due to set rules..


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