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Galactic Alliance vs Galactic Empire
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Lord Lucien
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Exactly. I think if he learns that Luke's betrayal as of DE would bring him down, he certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to pull the same stunt when Luke is at his LotF self.


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*Sidious returns home and finds a strange figure waiting for him, unannounced*

"Hello Palpatine, it's been awhile. Well, for me at least, for you we've never met.

"Even so, I'd like to pick up where we left off."

*Ignites lightsaber*


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I'm actually not sure who would win in this war. I'd say that the New Jedi Order would probably tip the scales in the Galactic Alliance's favor, if every single war ever fought in Star Wars is any indication. But without the NJO, the Alliance could only win by sheer attrition, or hoping that the Rebel Alliance back home wins.

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No, not technically. It would be more accurate to say they let the Empire beat itself and they survived and they survived and came out on top. For some reason, many people think that the Rebellion's victory at Endor constitutes "defeat of the entire Empire", something even Robot Chicken referenced once. Thrawn would've kicked their ass had he not been backstabbed, RE: Palpatine would have kicked their ass had he not been backstabbed, and the entire Imperial Remnant would have kicked their ass had they not descended in to fractious warlordism.


And Hitler would have won if he were smart, had a large surface fleet and a large deposit of oil reserves. And the South would have won if they were larger, had more railroads, more guns and more money.

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But you're right in that the GA would have a slight technological gap on their side,


That varies from "slight" to "extreme" depending on the author. If you go solely by Saxtonite Star Wars, technology is pretty darn static. But most EU authors ignore this, and it is even stated in Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor that a New Republic X wing's quad lasers have power generation on par with a CW era turbolaser.

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and several decades of knowledge and information on the Empire.


Which is a far greater advantage than you seem to imply.

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The "awe" the GA would experience wouldn't be the Empire itself, it would be the the fact that they've been time travelling. And with no discernible paradoxical consequences to boot.


That's actually a good point. But it works both ways.

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And if we're to play to "realism" here, the Empire invading the LotF era galaxy would be a disastrous expedition for them.


No, really? roll eyes (sarcastic)

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No relevant information,


This I'd have to disagree with. Getting information on the GA would be as easy as tuning into the Holonet.

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now-foreign territory,


Again, disagree. A galaxy hardly changes in a few decades, nor would civilizations that have been established for tens of thousands of years.

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a bottle-necked supply route---


In space? What the kriff are you talking about?

False Edit: Well, I could understand with the wormhole. But once the Empire sends its fleet through (which it can), the Alliance won't have the time to dedicate any significant fleet to bottleneck the wormhole, assuming that they can even find out where it is.

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the logistics would be a nightmare.


Agreed, but not for any of the reasons you mentioned. Holding and occupying worlds of tens of billions would be the problem.

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Not to mention if the Empire sent its entire armada in to the wormhole, that would leave their own time's galaxy completely undefended and exposed to rebellion and chaos.


Another good point, although the Imperial Navy is large enough to do both with moderate success.

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A "realistic", cross-time invasion is silly and kinda sucks to talk about. Much better to discuss a hypothetical involving simple statistics and competence.


Simple statistics? What statistics aren't simple enough for you? Logistics?

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Lord Lucien
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I was about to respond to that, but it's been way too long since that last post of mine for me to care about doing it all again. Debating fictional numbers and 'what ifs' has become boring and tedious. I never thought that day would come.


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Zampanó
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dont worry about it

i'll cover this one:

shut up


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Generally only one or two at a time, and the GFFA knows all of their weaknesses.
The sun crusher doesn't have a weakness...


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Lord Lucien
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dont worry about it

i'll cover this one:

shut up
You've such a way with words.


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I was about to respond to that, but it's been way too long since that last post of mine for me to care about doing it all again. Debating fictional numbers and 'what ifs' has become boring and tedious. I never thought that day would come.


Apathy is a dangerous, cunning beast. Perhaps I'll lend you a hand and tear into the gentleman sometime later?

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Lord Lucien
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Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Apathy is a dangerous, cunning beast. Perhaps I'll lend you a hand and tear into the gentleman sometime later?
Feel free. If you go first it might spur me to do my own follow-up. I love sloppy seconds. Probably why a weary and disheveled Neph leaving your house piques my interest.



Look at me, making a gay statement of fact joke!


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The sun crusher doesn't have a weakness...


Hit it with a tractor beam then pull it into something.

If the flier is non-force user or not a strong enough one to stop the Jedi from doing stuff to them, use the force on them.


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