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Time Trapper vs Great Darkness Darkseid
Who wins?
Jun 21st, 2011 07:20 AM
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Good one. I'm not sure. :/
Jun 21st, 2011 07:25 AM
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Didn't this already happen (with GDS DS taking the Trapper's powers)?
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Jun 21st, 2011 12:41 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Harbinger
Didn't this already happen (with GDS DS taking the Trapper's powers)?
Uh huh, and he did it effortlessly.
Jun 21st, 2011 02:51 PM
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That was just a Controller stand-in
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Jun 21st, 2011 02:52 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
That was just a Controller stand-in
not at the time it wasn't.
Jun 21st, 2011 03:08 PM
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Yeah it was. Check the respect thread
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Jun 21st, 2011 04:27 PM
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I think the point is, was he intended as the real Time Trapper initially, or was he always meant to be a Controller stand in? The difference would mean the writer intended Darkseid to defeat the real deal, meaning he really believes he's that powerful, and for whatever reason changed his mind for the sake of plot.
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Jun 21st, 2011 04:49 PM
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Always thought it was intended to be the actual TT, but it's been a while since I read the story, so I could be wrong.
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Jun 21st, 2011 04:51 PM
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For what it's worth, Darkseid also effortlessly defeated Mordru, who was enough of a threat to the genuine Time Trapper that he actually was instrumental in forming the Legion to counter him.
Jun 21st, 2011 04:54 PM
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^ How strong was Mordru at that time? quote: (post ) Originally posted by cdtm
I think the point is, was he intended as the real Time Trapper initially, or was he always meant to be a Controller stand in? The difference would mean the writer intended Darkseid to defeat the real deal, meaning he really believes he's that powerful, and for whatever reason changed his mind for the sake of plot.
Yeah, but the same thing could be said of when Darkseid gets beaten up and people argue that was only an avatar (although at the time, it was intended to be the real Darkseid).
People would probably be up in arms with that sort of reasoning, regardless of its merit.
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Jun 21st, 2011 05:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ How strong was Mordru at that time? Yeah, but the same thing could be said of when Darkseid gets beaten up and people argue that was only an avatar (although at the time, it was intended to be the real Darkseid).
People would probably be up in arms with that sort of reasoning, regardless of its merit.
Or a Thanos clone being the real Thanos. Or a Doombot being the real Doom.
True enough.
I'll say one thing about Darkseid: Under Kirby, he really wasn't a physical powerhouse. He was a plotter and schemer, with ridiculously powerful Omega Effect, but when confronted by Orion he ran like heck. (And he used a ray gun over his OE for some odd reason O_o )
Kalibak was the brawler.
Jun 21st, 2011 06:24 PM
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The only time DS run from Orion was during a brief but full scale revolt on Apokolips, where DS was practically powerless.
He was running mostly from the revolting mob than Orion.
And yeah that's the same story he was using a gun on Orion and Orion for his part was doing the same - it's called Hunger Dogs.
It's actually a pretty good book.
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Jun 21st, 2011 07:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cdtm
I think the point is, was he intended as the real Time Trapper initially, or was he always meant to be a Controller stand in? The difference would mean the writer intended Darkseid to defeat the real deal, meaning he really believes he's that powerful, and for whatever reason changed his mind for the sake of plot.
That only applies to that writer and since it's been retconned it carries no weight at all outside that particular writer's mind.
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