I never said they did but it's all the same character. Even Hulk's greatest feats don't come near to Thanos' feats. This shows you for who you are. One poster who isn't aware of even the stories he debates for or against. It's been proven time and time again you just don't know enough to really argue for one side or another.
Yes Thor was strong but there is no clear evidence that the PG made him significantly stronger. At most I will say 2x. Nothing more. Magus didn't want to ko Thanos. That isn't a feat that can be used period. Thing messed up WWH's face with a punch, SS messed up BRB's face with a punch. Doesn't mean anything. Plus you are ignoring the fact that Mar-vell was using a lot of energy in those confrontations. Energy amped hits as well. Yes, Magus was holding back, otherwise the writer would have had him say something else, like, "I'm going to kill you now." or "Die!" Nonsense. There is no evidence that Thanos depowered himself physically. Yes, Magus was holding back. It is clear as day. You act like it is impossible to cut yourself off from power of the gems. The feat is not usable.
How about this: The Power Gem amps you. Thor had the Power Gem. Thor was amped. Thor unamped ran a rape train through multiple heralds. Thor was amped. By the way, Thor was also amped, and if I recall correctly, it was stated in the comic that Thor was amped, and the source of his amp was the Power Gem (which amps you).
If you're going to sit here and think I'm going to argue about how much he was amped, then this is probably the best course you could actually take.
Magus didn't want to KO him and it can't be used... because? Your debating strategies are impeccable as always. It never happened because Magus never said "Die!" or "I'm going to give you a rimjob till you die... to death!"
Do you listen to yourself? Do you go around saying murders never happened because they never meant to push the trigger, or they never yelled before they fired?
Do people ever push you in front of cars in society because it'd be better than what you're doing now?
Thing messed up Hulk's face and got destroyed. Surfer messed up Beta's face and... well, he beat the shit out of Beta... not sure where you were going with that. Mar-Vell smashed his shields, his helmet, his face, and Nova was nowhere in that fight at any time.
Thanos depowered the shit out of himself when he had the IG. THE SHIT OUT OF HIMSELF
Well, there's no evidence that Magus was holding back, that he depowered himself, or that... wait, I just said Thanos depowered himself with the gems in the post you responded to... how am I acting like it's impossible to cut yourself off from the gems?
I'd talk about something else, but if you're not going to put any logic or any thinking whatsoever forward, then I can cut a post short. You know what I mean h1? No logic or thinking forward... ya, of course you know what I mean
Ok I get you. Your saying it doesn't matter how much Thor was amped because Thor without the amp was still a bad MF. So Thanos was at least fighting, at minimum, a bad MF?
Well if that is the case then my argument changes to someone falling to Thor physically in that arc proves nothing since the characters were fighting stupidly. Even if they weren't, I still don't see how Thor landed the same type of blows on Thanos as he did on them. Not a fair comparison. Now if Thor slammed on Thanos with the hammer and Thanos took it well then I wouldn't argue against Thanos at all. You have my word. But that wasn't the case.
It is possible to be angry and still hold back full power from the gems. It's not like holding back just physical strength. You can mentally allocated how much power you want to use. It is also possible to be mad be still conscious of the fact you can kill or ko someone when you are hitting them.
Look at the fight again. Marvel used energy amped attack to crack Nova's shields. He did other energy effects as well. I know he cracked Nova's helmet a little and made his bleed a little in the face with a good, all his might, punch (I didn't see any disfigurement though).
Thanos turned off sensory input, his power was still off the chain as the feats he had shown (like against Cap's shield). I don't see how that is depowering the shit out of oneself.
I don't understand you here. Please explain again?
I have good evidence that Magus was holding back (he was trying to get Thanos to admit something). These characters never existed and we don't know anything about what really happened (because nothing did) but what the writer is revealing to us. We can't add or subtract anything but other than what the writer is showing us.
I'll just say it is inconclusive (no one wins). That's why the feat can't be used. We have no idea what range of power level Magus was hitting Thanos with.
lolwut
Your argument changes to them fighting stupidity and it doesn't count because it was a good feat for Thanos? Do you have sandwich meat in your brain or something? Maybe a little bit of genoa, some turkey, bacon? Is it the turkey that told you this was a good idea and you should post it?
No, you're right, Thor was throwin jabs at Thanos and wasn't hitting him hard at all. Writer's intent tells me this is the case too.
Ya, that makes sense. In what of Starlin's memoirs did you read that in again?
You know how hard it is to hold back power when you're pissed off and throwing full haymakers? You know how hard it is to hold back power when you're never stated to hold back power? You know that this would mean that when Warlock grabbed the gauntlet, that Magus was holding back power, and therefore would have never caused a scene since he'd have been swiftly defeated by Warlock?
Plus, if he would have depowered himself, it would have been in the company of Galactus... such a great idea hey?
NOW I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT STARLIN WANTS US TO KNOW!
I know what he used. It was a punch with energy effects around it. Clearly it was irrelevant to a non energy effect punch.
And the same punch did nothing to Thanos. Point.
I realize it was still off the chain... that was my whole point. Thanos specifically depowered himself and he was still way above the heroes. Magus never specifically depowered himself, but if he did, that would still put him in a pretty powerful range of physical strength.
But Magus didn't depower himself. And breaking Cap's shield is nothing compared to beating up Abstracts.
Then why are you trying to add new things?
All I'm saying is that Magus with THE INFINITY GAUNTLET punched Thanos IN HIS FACEHOLE while he was pissed off. You're going through "He was holding back" "He could have been depowered" "My anus bleeds". It's bad enough that everyone else defeats you, but even worse when you blatantly defeat yourself.
How about you stop doing "loldoesntcount" everytime you dislike a feat?
Magus with the IG was hitting Thanos, while he had the IG on. Magus is above Sentry
Thor with the Power Gem was hitting Thanos. Thor is above Sentry (plus Thor hits the hardest out of all the heralds even without the Power Gem... so there's that)
Mar-Vell hit Thanos, and Thanos didn't flinch. Mar-Vell is above Sentry
Pattern? No of course not, none of this happened according to you.
I honestly don't know. I'd like to pick Thanos, and I know that Sentry's "Power of a million exploding suns" is hyperbole, but even so he is still insanely powerful (pun intended). Thanos is also very powerful, but ripping a God in half powerful, I'm not so certain.
This writing was a waist of time since I argued "Even if it were..." Logically you are suppose to attack that argument and not the first. Thor threw some decent punches at Thanos, but nothing substantial with the hammer though. So we are suppose to assume that Magus was using the full power of the gauntlet against Thanos when clearly Thanos wasn't destroyed and we have Magus trying to get Thanos to admit something? Thanos didn't have a helmet on to gently crack. But yes Thanos did falter (was affected) from the punch but not as much as Nova did. So that would mean Thanos blunt force durability could be a little higher. Now know that the punch on Thanos was downward and thus giving him the ability to retaliate quicker than if the punch was thrown at the same angle it was on Nova. In conclusion, you proven that Thanos has at least slightly better punch durability than Nova does. But this has nothing to do with Thanos strength, which is a different story. I already argued that it is possible to consciously limit what you draw from the gems while still being mad. Also, if Thanos wasn't destroyed then Magus wasn't using anywhere near the full power of the gems. That's just common sense. So it makes sense that Magus was holding back and only wanting to torment Thanos. The sad thing is I don't see how I defeated myself. Completely cutting yourself off from an aspect has nothing to do with limiting how much power you draw from another aspect. Otherwise you are telling me it is impossible to not hit with all the force of the IG if you are mad. I disagree due to Magus narrative and the fact Thanos wasn't destroyed. Thor doesn't hit the hardest of all the heralds, he can't shatter a planet with a blow like some other heralds can. Magus with the IG is above Sentry or Thor but his punches on Thanos were not above theirs necessarily.
he has preconceived notions about how these characters should operate based on bios, then when the actual comics don't support them he thinks it's garbage.
Hulk is variable and not constant. Namor overpowered an extremely angry Hulk. So is Namor>Hulk?
Professor Hulk is a very weak Hulk. Banner limits him more than the other Hulks. Also neck muscles aren't the same as arm and chest muscles. Plus we have the same Hulk restraining Thanos. Also we have Thor restraining Thanos (but isn't some Hulks stronger than Thor?).
So your faulty logic is that overpowering a specific Hulk at any given time is equivalent to proving you are stronger than all Hulks that ever lived prior. This is stupid.
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Aug 2nd, 2011 09:17 PM
something is terribly wrong with Quan. Who cares what Thanos did to a weaker version of Hulk?
i know h1's major malfunction
