Listening... through the Force? Her ears are broken?
I'm confused. Your interpretation of her intentions is... more canon than an alternative interpretation? When did that happen?
Again, look at the Bane PoD quote. That little speech from Kas'im the Magnificent is enough for Bane to muster enough strength to level the temple. Taking a bit of a breather while the Exile&Co. are stunned is completely plausible. Your objection is noted, but not decisive. The possibility stands.
Kreia's ears are broken... why?
Resting Potential. Essentially, without the stress and distraction of combat, any attack is going to have the entire power and attention of the practitioner. For example, Kenobi was able to call his lightsaber to him in TPM during a lull in the fight, but the same maneuver in AotC is beyond him because Jango Fett kept him occupied.
So... the visual evidence is vague and hard to understand but we should totally trust you, right? I don't think it works like that. Kreia's drain is different from N.'s drain is different from the technique that cut her off from the Force is different from the planet-destroying drain. Simplest explanation that incorporates all the evidence.
1. You'll notice that N. already has a life-draining gift.
2. Kreia's commentary on the issue during the game is clear enough... the drain that the Exile and N. use is instinctive.
So it is not the same move as N. uses.
Well, when missiles and debris are flying at me, it gets a little bit harder to think. When the telekinetic grip of a Dark Lord of the Sith is at my throat, it is sometimes a little hard to access a universal energy field that I hate. Maybe that's just me.
The point is that combat includes both offensive and defensive measures, often in tandem. Even Luke can't use every technique at once; he has to take himself out of the fight during Invincible to cast an illusion over Jaina. Had he been forced to defend himself during the battle, the illusion would have been shattered.
Thank you for the compliment.
You've yet to prove milliseconds, you've yet to prove that his innate defense is negligible, you've yet to prove that Kreia's gesture (which takes longer than many other offensive actions we've seen in the mythos) would outpace Vader's reactions, and you've yet to prove that Vader wouldn't simply implode the witch's think pan.
You've spent a lot of words about how Kreia only has to gesture, and then Vader dies. Let's talk about how Kreia dies. Vader doesn't have to gesture to initiate his trademark Force Choke. Vader doesn't even have to have eye contact- the attack has been used from lightyears away. Vader has mammoth strength at his disposal (have you played TFU?) and could simply apply that force (lowercase 'f') to Kreia's temple and be done with it.
See, it's easy to say that your character will simply one shot the opposition, isn't it?
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Mockery, Zam? That seems out of character.
At the very least Kotor 2 came after that dreadful game so its the more canonical one. If it is the same attack at least Nihilus wasn't wiping out planets with ****ing pink fog.
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The eagerness with which the opposition is embracing the notion that the Dark Reaper’s drain is incompatible with that of Nihilus or Kreia is perplexing to me, when the evidence so strongly indicates that they are, in fact, the same.
In this interview, Chris Avellone says the following with regards to Nihilus’s drain:
Though the game, campaign guide, and Avellone make no secret that the technique originated with the ancient Sith, here, Avellone explains why they didn’t use it: They feared the loss of their personalities and very identities.
Here, we come to understand that the Dark Reaper is also a device of ancient Sith origin, utilizing a suspiciously similar technique. Use of the Dark Reaper enables the Sith to make use of the Force drain without succumbing to its identity-stealing nature.
With regards to the role of Force bonds in the technique, I don't see what they have to do with it. Did Kreia form a Force bond with the Jedi Masters she killed? Did Nihilus with the colony of Katarr?
Aug 26th, 2011 01:27 AM
