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Mindset
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I agree with everything Juntai has said so far.


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He can't read Clark's mind, enter it, or detect him if Clark doesn't want him to.


yea k.


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Hasn't Clark allowed MM to enter his mind in order to test whether or he could force Jonnz out?


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Someone posted a scan of Martian Manhunter telling Superman he can't enter his mind because it is too formidable or some shit like that.


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[QUOTE=13516839]Originally posted by DARTH POWER
[B](You forgot Intangibility.. TP and Phasing can easily be 2 HUGE deal breakers. Especially when we're talking about one of the most powerful telepaths in comics, who also has enough strength and speed to go toe to toe with Supes without TP or Phasing..)




Didnt forget, Intangibility wont work so well since Supes can also go intangible via speed and has affected intangible beings with heat vision

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He can't read Clark's mind, enter it, or detect him if Clark doesn't want him to.
what if he punches him a few hundred times beforehand?


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PISless Flash comes in, and kills them both. Lol just kidding, but seriously he would....anyway Supes heat vision is no bueno for MM right?


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wasn't there some form of kryptonian meditation Clark knew or something to stop TP also Super-concentration ftw

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Someone posted a scan of Martian Manhunter telling Superman he can't enter his mind because it is too formidable or some shit like that.



The only times Jonn has had issues with Supes in regards to Tp is when he is entering Supes mind as a favour or some other entity is affecting Supes mind.

I can think of three examples of the top of my head when Jonn has messed with Supes head with no visible effort.

These threads are pointless. The logical/intelligent posters always back Jonn, while the ignorant/fanboys will always go with big blue, and you just can't change that.


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The only times Jonn has had issues with Supes in regards to Tp is when he is entering Supes mind as a favour or some other entity is affecting Supes mind.

I can think of three examples of the top of my head when Jonn has messed with Supes head with no visible effort.

These threads are pointless. The logical/intelligent posters always back Jonn, while the ignorant/fanboys will always go with big blue, and you just can't change that.
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These threads are pointless. The logical/intelligent posters always back Kang, while the ignorant/fanboys will always go with latverian dude, and you just can't change that.



True that MM, true that...


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MM beats supes.


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Didnt forget, Intangibility wont work so well since Supes can also go intangible via speed and has affected intangible beings with heat vision


Well SBP's HV went right through an Intangible MM, so that would suggest the Supes HV would have no effect either.

As for Supes Intangibility, how many times has he even used that?? Im guessing he cant do it with the same ease as MM.

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Well SBP's HV went right through an Intangible MM, so that would suggest the Supes HV would have no effect either.

As for Supes Intangibility, how many times has he even used that?? Im guessing he cant do it with the same ease as MM.


This is CIS off Superman, so how many times he's done it is irrelevant.
Also, he can do it probably with greater ease (or speed) than MM. He became intangible almost instantaneously against ultra fast attacks of DD.


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MM, He could go toe to toe with Supes physically and it won't be easy for supes to keep his head in the fight while he is being mentally assaulted at the same time.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
what if he punches him a few hundred times beforehand?
Then he can enter his head through his face.


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has mm ever used tp while phased? has he ever used tp while physically hammering away at someone? seems he MUST have, but most times i recall him really going hardcore tp, he's off in the distance, or out of the battle, concentrating on his tp as opposed to multi-tasking with it. i'm sure if someone reminds me, i'll recall several times it happened, but off-hand i can't really think of any times.

even if he DID use tp, it seems to me, given their past showings, that it could stagger jonn as easily as it could clark. the force of being thrown out of supes' head could just as easily leave jonn open to supes's attacks.


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has mm ever used tp while phased? has he ever used tp while physically hammering away at someone? seems he MUST have, but most times i recall him really going hardcore tp, he's off in the distance, or out of the battle, concentrating on his tp as opposed to multi-tasking with it. i'm sure if someone reminds me, i'll recall several times it happened, but off-hand i can't really think of any times.

even if he DID use tp, it seems to me, given their past showings, that it could stagger jonn as easily as it could clark. the force of being thrown out of supes' head could just as easily leave jonn open to supes's attacks.
This sounds reasonable. Too reasonable. Stop it.

I also think that J'onn could use less overt telepathy. I agree outright controlling Superman is a risky proposition, but more subtle uses (like illusions) might be less prone to feedback.


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This is CIS off Superman, so how many times he's done it is irrelevant.


I think it does. If most writers dnt write him that way, and he's only ever done it once or twice in his history, then I think we can question if its still part of his current powerset.

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Originally posted by h1a8
This is CIS off Superman, so how many times he's done it is irrelevant.
Also, he can do it probably with greater ease (or speed) than MM. He became intangible almost instantaneously against ultra fast attacks of DD.
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